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Author Topic: So many goblins, not so great imagination  (Read 1678 times)

Efun

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So many goblins, not so great imagination
« on: September 29, 2008, 10:09:27 pm »

I have 13 goblins in cages....and pretty much nothing to do with them...i have a bottomless pit and a magma pool... any ideas?
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 10:15:17 pm »

2 z level pit over a 4x4 weapon trap room- kills em and you get the gear, bonus if you include dogs chained up outside the weapon traps.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 10:45:36 pm »

You could build a small arena out of whatever you've got lying around. Strip the gobs of their equipment (especially the ones with crossbows) if you don't want your army dwarves to get hurt.

Link all of the cages to a lever, send in the army, lock the doors, and pull. If you're really unlucky or your dwarves aren't up to the challenge, build one of the walls out of Fortifications instead and hope your dwarves don't run out of bolts.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2008, 12:15:49 am »

Grates over a bridge over a pit, all magma-safe. Put the goblins on the grates while the bridge is closed, pour magma in until the goblins burn, open the bridge to drain the magma, and collect what didn't burn (i.e. the iron).
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 12:57:12 am »

Strip them of their possessions ( while they are in the cage, and sell it at dBay/eBay/heBay ) , dig a pit, designate a pit, designate goblins and war animals to said pit, watch the works, and when it settles build an entrance, retrieve skin/meat/pets/corpses, butcher corpses, and make stuff.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 06:52:19 am »

Build a trapped and (partially)(magma-)floodable arena with (pseudo-)randomly placed floodgates, floor hatches and upright spike traps all linked up to (multiple and/or the same) pressure plates. Start easily and throw in a kitten or so. Then work your way up to dogs, cows, camels, trained dogs, multiple animals... Should a megabeast appear on the map on a certain time, cage it and throw it in too. If it survives, add the [INTELLIGENT] and [PET_EXOTIC] to it's entry in the raws to make sure it doesn't tear up your entire fortress. Unless it of course already has killed one.

That or a maze with the same properties and a dispensable creature on the other end. But here you can make it so that the goblins block the eachother's paths. Here you could also put a megabeast on one end and the green menace on the other. Have the gobbos team up at a certain point and see who's faster. Because if they're not, they're obviously doomed. if they are, they might stand a chance.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 06:58:31 am »

Although a labyrinth would be highly entertaining, it would also take a significant amount of time and effort.

I recommend the Cuisinart approach.   Dig out a small room (say, 11x11), and place a single weapon trap in the center.  Load the weapon trap with as many high quality steel-or-better serrated disc traps as you can.  Then, unleash the goblins into the room.

They will wander around mindlessly until someone eventually steps on the trap and paints the walls red.  After a few hits the trap will jam, but then it's just a matter of sending in something nasty to deal with the rest of them.  Either that, or just send in the goblins one at a time.

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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 07:19:08 am »

I have 13 goblins in cages....and pretty much nothing to do with them...i have a bottomless pit and a magma pool... any ideas?


Just 1 word: Arena!  :D
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2008, 08:53:39 am »

I have 13 goblins in cages....and pretty much nothing to do with them...i have a bottomless pit and a magma pool... any ideas?


I kinda like Goblin Bunker Busters myself.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2008, 09:28:27 am »

Goblin based fun in 5 easy steps;

1) Dig out a pit, divided down the middle by a 1 tile wide channel.
2) Build a bridge that will just cover the channel, no more, no less, and link to an external lever.
3) Fill side where bridge is built with wardogs, 40-50 is the bare minimum.
4) Fill other side with goblins.
5) Pull lever to profit.


e.g.
Code: [Select]
###########
#g g_[dddd#
# gg_[dddd#
#g  _[dddd#
#g g_[dddd#
###########

# = wall
[ = bridge
g = goblin
_ = channel
d = wardog

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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2008, 09:40:42 am »

Save them.  Get a lot more of them.

Build a Giant room (With solid floors!!!)
Dig out the area above the room, leaving the floor and a single support.
Put the cages in the room, link the goblins up to levers, link the support up to the same lever.

Pull, said lever.

Insta-death for all goblins.  Tis... beautiful.  (Just... make sure you don't accidentally collapse the rest of the map, killing off 3/4 of your dwarves who all happened to be in the lower floors of the map, without the benefit of a solid ceiling above them....)

Efun

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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2008, 04:52:12 pm »

ok, i want to make them trainable, or make it so i can use them as like companions for my soldiers to go into battle with, whats the tag i should put in?
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2008, 05:45:24 pm »

either [trainable] or [pet_exotic] or [pet]. Trainable tag will make them war goblins that will deal 2x more damage, and hopefully render them subservent to your dwarves (pet tag might help them be non-hostile). pet and pet exotic allow them to be adopted by your dwarves after proper training.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2008, 05:51:12 am »

You need either PET or PET_EXOTIC to tame a creature.  TRAINABLE lets you train hunting and war varieties.

Be warned:  PET tags break civ AI.  I don't know what effect it'd have on invaders, but adding PET to your dwarves will make them uncontrollable (though any labors that were already active still work IIRC).  I'm not sure you can tame hostiles (e.g. beak dogs the goblins ride into battle) anyway.  You can try, but don't expect results.
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Re: So many goblins, not so great imagination
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2008, 08:50:41 am »

This is somewhat related to this as Im trying to decide what to do with all my goblins and foul blendecs. If I pit the goblins will they breed after a while?
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