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[inaluct]

Well, there's always Arkoth, god of Fate. We could make some sort of arbitrary symbol up and plaster it on things, I guess.

What kind of a symbol would a dwarf god of fate have? Does this fate refer to the day to day lives of the dwarves? Maybe an hourglass to represent the passing of time, or something like dice to represent chance. Or this could refer to a consequence of actions, or justice sort of way, in which something like a hammer or chain would be more appropriate. If it refers to a more final fate, IE death, then a skull or scythe would work. Or if it refers to the fate of the dwarven nation as a whole, a crown might do.

Of all of these, the hourglass strikes me as the best idea, but tell me what you think.

Alternatively, perhaps we should make the symbol an object we can actually build, then have that kind of item laying around or stockpiled in treasure chests.

Exactly what I was thinking. The crown, scythe, skull, hammer, and chain sound like really good ideas, too.

Here's that history part from the world we're using:

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Ushul Kodor
The Realms of Dawn

The Tapered Pick of Insight, Dwarves
 Worship List
  Kad�l Minegolds the Silver of Oiling, deity: metals
  Duthnur Rampartglove, deity: fortresses
  Etur the Walled Boulders, deity: mountains, volcanos
  R�sen Canyonoils, deity: minerals, wealth
  Avuz the Earthen Brightnesses of Iron, deity: jewels
  K�rar Calledriddle the Confusing Rumor, deity: courage, the night, dreams, nightmares
   gesh Sportchances the Playful Distraction, deity: games
  Arkoth, deity: fate
  Nikot the Boyish Tulip, deity: youth, birth, family, pregnancy, marriage, oaths, laws, discipline, order, duty, beauty
  Rozsed, deity: music, festivals, revelry, happiness
 Ruler List
 

    * Sodel Tomesblot (b. d. 1, Reign Began: 1), *** Original Line, Married (d. 95)

      1 Child -- Ages at death: 0
      Worshipped Avuz the Earthen Brightnesses of Iron (12%)
 

    * Dod�k Wallednourished (b. d. 102, Reign Began: 2), *** New Line, Married (d. 81)

      10 Children (out-lived 8 of them) -- Ages at death: (d. 25) (d. 70) (d. 25) 93 (d. 26) (d. 40) (d. 66) 44 (d. 75) (d. 77)
      Worshipped Zumzust Suckerclimax the Rapidity of Rags (1%)
 

    * Sodel Sealfountain (b.9 d. 174, Reign Began: 102), Inherited from mother, Married (d. 154)

      10 Children (out-lived 8 of them) -- Ages at death: 148 (d. 74) (d. 72) (d. 76) (d. 86) (d. 111) (d. 130) (d. 100) (d. 137) 91
      Worshipped Etur the Walled Boulders (35%)
 

    * Mosus Cuspmachines (b.26 d. 185, Reign Began: 174), Inherited from mother, Never Married

      No Children
      Worshipped K�rar Calledriddle the Confusing Rumor (44%)
 

    * Geshud Palebolts (b.83 d. 252, Reign Began: 216), *** New Line, Never Married

      No Children
      Worshipped K�rar Calledriddle the Confusing Rumor (95%)
Larsnus, Kobolds
 Ruler List
 

    * Chlayrus (b. d. 4, Reign Began: 1), *** Original Line, Married (d. 5)

      2 Children -- Ages at death: 3 1
 

    * Strublayngis (b. d. 6, Reign Began: 5), *** New Line, Married (d. 3)

      1 Child -- Ages at death: 5
 

    * Bulufutursnin (b. d. 10, Reign Began: 7), *** New Line, Married (d. 4)

      2 Children -- Ages at death: 9 6
The Union of Rights, Humans
 Worship List
  Desli, deity: love
  Kulur, deity: mist
  Ol Callmatched, deity: the sun, the dawn, twilight
  Sted the Fenced Hero, deity: duty, order, laws
  Obin Swelteredbranded the Warmth of Silver, deity: volcanos, earth, caverns
 Ruler List
The Musty Fiend, Goblins
 Worship List
  Usmza Heatmenace the Unholy Crypts, demon: fire, death, torture
 Ruler List
 

    * Usmza Heatmenace the Unholy Crypts (b., Reign Began: 1), *** Original Line, Never Married

      No Children
The Inky Fang, Elves
 Worship List
  Sareve Heatherhawks, force: nature, rivers
 Ruler List
 

    * Ada Bridgedwater (b. d. 1, Reign Began: 1), *** Original Line, Married (d. 1)

      1 Child -- Ages at death: 0
      Worshipped Sareve Heatherhawks (77%)
 

    * Ithith� Grottosense (b. d. 5, Reign Began: 2), *** New Line, Married (d. 6)

      5 Children -- Ages at death: 4 3 2 1 0
      Worshipped Sareve Heatherhawks (70%)
 

    * Ricote Tuskfill (b. d. 6, Reign Began: 6), *** New Line, Married (d. 5)

      5 Children -- Ages at death: 5 4 3 2 1
      Worshipped Sareve Heatherhawks (34%)

I highlighted Arkoth and some other stuff that I think could be interesting. The guy who's a god of courage, the night, dreams, and nightmares sounds like a god that we could make an awesome cathedral for, but it would probably have to have some deep metaphorical constructions to be as awesome as it could be.

We could go for a "Palace of X" thing, where we make themed dungeons. Like, The Palace of Chains (dun dun dun), with a chain on every wall or something. That would tie in with the Palace of Poisons, which is where Usmza Heatmenaces is in this world (I think). If we're going to do that, expanding the palace of poisons to a really impressive size and configuration would be cool, too, but we'd need to make sure the right person did it.

[Kishmond]

I just realized we're stuck on .40d for this whole project. Bummer.

[inaluct]

Hey, no pressure at least. If we all screw up, we can just make a better one with the next version.

[ProfessorA]

A good abstract symbol for fate:
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you can deviate in the middle as far as you like but the end is the same.

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Death.

The circle/wheel is always a classic too

[Fortis]

Palace of X? How about the palace of dreams? Dedicated to K rar, diety of courage, night, dreams, nightmares. I think I just found out what I�m going to name my monument. Now I need to think up a good symbol for K rar. A crescent moon is the first thing that comes to mind, but ideas that dwarves could actually build include a harp or some sort of weapon or shield to symbolize courage.

Now that�s not to say someone else can�t do it as well. It would be interesting to see the different styles of monuments people might attribute to a particular deity. If someone else wanted to build something dedicated to K rar, that�s fine by me.

As for the .40d issue, does that version have the ability to place more than one square of wall or floor at a time? �cause my plans involve a ton of such constructs.

Lastly, can you encrust totems with gems? That�s starting to strike me as fitting for Arkoth, especially since the dwarves don�t have a specific god of death.

Edit: I got beaten to the punch by the Professor. I do like that abstract symbol idea.

[inaluct]

I'm thinking green glass spires and winding stairs for the dream-god. I might do that too. It'll be interesting to see what everyone associates with him.

[Skid]

40d is the current version, so it does have the ability to place many tiles at once.

I definitely want to do a palace of nightmares.

[inaluct]

Well, we have a deity of fortresses and another deity of jewels. Those could definitely be interesting.

[Fortis]

K rar is going to have quite a dual nature.

[Boksi]

The night, dreams, nightmares and courage.

What I thought of, after a while of consideration, was Freddy Krueger.

I'm planning on making a rather interesting fortress, which might include a small church for all the gods.



EDIT: Finished a rough draft of the first level. I don't think it'll fly though.

[Fortis]

Any word from Cheetar?

[Jamini]

We haven't heard a word from him in this thread for three weeks. I say we skip him and move on to Sarath, if s/he is still interested, of course.

In fact, a time limit for starting your turn would be a good thing to have to prevent us from waiting on people who signed up and forgot about this project in the future. Three days from the PM from the last fortress manager would be more than enough time for someone to at least confirm that they have at least started choosing an embark site.

[Spoggerific]

We haven't heard a word from him in this thread for three weeks. I say we skip him and move on to Sarath, if s/he is still interested, of course.

In fact, a time limit for starting your turn would be a good thing to have to prevent us from waiting on people who signed up and forgot about this project in the future. Three days from the PM from the last fortress manager would be more than enough time for someone to at least confirm that they have at least started choosing an embark site.

I took the liberty of PMing Sarath. I'll let you know when or if I hear back from him/her.

[Duke 2.0]

 How about this: We have a week. We have a second week if we post. We skip after a few days after no response and the deadline has passed.

[Boksi]

Crud crud crud crud crud crud CRUD.[/b]

Gotta start designing more of the surprise! I've only got seven z-levels and they're not even completely finished! I'm not even halfway through!

At least I've done the biggest ones, I suppose...