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[kefkakrazy]

I just embarked on what I'm pretty sure was a goblin stronghold. I've got the latest version (.40d).

Alright, everything seemed okay. But I was a bit... surprised... when I looked at the tower, and there were humans running around all over the place. I'm fairly certain it was an actual goblin stronghold, since there WERE a few goblins and there was a legendary named demon at the top for a ruler, so I didn't pick a city by mistake.

Now, the strange bit: Everything was completely nonaggressive. Even the demon was marked as "Friendly" and didn't attack the marksdwarf and pack of wardogs standing next to him-by the same token the marksdwarf did not take offense to the giant demon and start shooting.

Seems rather odd.

[Draco18s]

Was your dwarven civ at war with that goblin civ, or were gobos "-------"?

[kefkakrazy]

I don't have a clue. I kinda figured that goblins and demons had a "shoot on sight" arrangement with dwarves, regardless of war/not war. ^_^

[Draco18s]

I don't have a clue. I kinda figured that goblins and demons had a "shoot on sight" arrangement with dwarves, regardless of war/not war. ^_^

Nope.  "-----" means that you aren't at war, but you'll get sieges, because Toady says so.

[kefkakrazy]

Well. That explains it. Still seems really counterintuitive, all things considered.

Hmm, so if I'd continued that fortress, gotten enough seiges to cause a war, would the goblins then have turned on me? O_o

[Duke 2.0]

Well. That explains it. Still seems really counterintuitive, all things considered.

Hmm, so if I'd continued that fortress, gotten enough seiges to cause a war, would the goblins then have turned on me? O_o

 Generally the sieging goblins will kill off the resident goblins. And once you go to war, chances are they goblins won't attack you after being to neutral all this time.