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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 06:05:30 am »

You don't need metal spears... in fact that would be a bit of overkill.

You could just use wooden spears.
I also put the Weapon Crafting suggestion in there. It's got no supporters.

Hehe, i used to forbid crossbows from the RAWs and made spears and maces a ranged weapon that hurled 'insults' that did 1 damage each(bolts do 100). Of course i never crafted any insults.
The end result was that bowyers could make wooden/bone spears and maces.
It worked pretty nice. 4 recruits took down a giant cave spider with 4 of those wooden spears.
One drawback was that caravans came by and tried to sell me wagonloads of *<=Insults=>*.

Whoa.  I've seen plenty of approaches to hacking in wooden training weapons, but this is by far the most compelling.  Do they do anything dumb with quivers as a result?
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2008, 07:37:00 am »

Do they do anything dumb with quivers as a result?

Fill them with -Insults- I bet.  Maybe just one, depends.  How many in the stack?
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2008, 08:04:41 am »

Dunno, probably the same mechanics as crossbows/bolts as for quivering and crafting number. The raws only allow so much editing.
EDIT: oh yeah. one side effect is probably that they won't spar with them.
As in EVER. Even metal spears.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2008, 09:41:59 am »

Good thing too... because spears are a Peircing weapon and as much as people already complain about pernament wounds and deaths... Spear Sparring would cause a riot!
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2008, 12:31:19 pm »

We already have spears that can be sparred with though.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2008, 01:05:01 pm »

We already have spears that can be sparred with though.
Yeah but if you make them ranged weapons, dwarves will probably refuse to spar with those spears just like how they won't train hammerskill with crossbows.
A crossbow is in fact a gimped hammer that can shoot bolts.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2008, 04:25:04 pm »

Hmm.  I wonder if you could add the ranged tag to swords or whatever, make a bunch of wooden swords, and then remove the tag and still use the swords?
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 08:30:40 am »

I dont think so, i remember that during testing i had to make a new world every time i changed the raws. But i'm not sure it wouldn't work, so it's a small thing to test.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 08:43:12 am »

I tried it and it worked.  Pretty nifty, no need to make a new world.  You just add the ranged tag, make some wood/bone weapons at a bowyer's shop, remove the tag and use the weapons as normal.  Thanks for the tip!  It's a lot cleaner and less hack-ish than using a smelter reaction.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2008, 09:57:07 am »

Sweet. The world-regenerating must have come up when i was modding the dwarves into lizardmen, the game didn't like that at all!
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2008, 04:54:55 pm »

Another possible use for cloth... Make sparring weapons. Make a weapon crafted from wood and cloth and presto, you have a sparring weapon. 33% damage instead of 50%. Also, sparring weapons would have massively reduced skill modifiers and crit chances, being specifically designed to NOT inflict lasting damage.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2008, 07:14:31 pm »

Hmm.  I wonder if you could add the ranged tag to swords

Lobbing scimitars, are we?
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2008, 10:10:20 am »

Hmm.  I wonder if you could add the ranged tag to swords

Lobbing scimitars, are we?

No, that would be throwing.

Think about the Master Sword.
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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2008, 11:47:11 am »

I foresee farmers using their ☼Iron Hoe☼ to crush invaders the way miners use their +Copper Pick+.  All in all, it would be cool if people set to Farming (Fields) used some tool.  Using spears for fishing would be interesting.  Would it allow fisherdwarfs to catch carp and such?

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Re: Fisherdwarves use spears to fish
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2008, 12:53:22 pm »

While I'm on that thought...why doesn't the still require a barrel or bucket to create?

Because you need the barrel to hold the job when it's done.

I think what he had in mind is the fact that there's a barrel (well, a ÷ anyway) in the upper left corner of the still. Which can apparently be made of stone; it takes on the color of the building material.
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