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Corronis

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What Makes a creature Sapient?
« on: September 13, 2008, 03:23:44 pm »
I'm modding in a new creature that I want to be able to create Civs, but also be able to be captured and trained by dwarves. (but I also don't want to modify the dwarven ethics tags)

So what makes a creature Sapient according to the Ethics tag?
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 04:00:03 pm »
Any creature that has a civ is sentient.
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 04:02:12 pm »
I don't think that you can actually tame any civ creature, and so therefore can not train them.
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 06:25:00 pm »
Yeah it's not possible to tame/train any real civ.
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2008, 06:26:00 am »
Quote from: Omniarch on September 13, 2008, 06:25:00 pm
Yeah it's not possible to tame/train any real civ.

Tell that to my elven war beasts.
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2008, 09:26:29 am »
Quote from: Omniarch on September 13, 2008, 06:25:00 pm
Yeah it's not possible to tame/train any real civ.

Don't make statements like that unless you or the person you've heard it from tried it.
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2008, 09:47:25 pm »
Quote from: Yanlin on September 14, 2008, 06:26:00 am

Tell that to my elven war beasts.

For your trained elves, was it simply because of a trainable tag in the creature profile, or did you have to change anything in the entity entries?
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2008, 09:53:41 pm »
Quote from: Neoskel on September 14, 2008, 09:26:29 am
Quote from: Omniarch on September 13, 2008, 06:25:00 pm
Yeah it's not possible to tame/train any real civ.

Don't make statements like that unless you or the person you've heard it from tried it.
I just know that when I tried it in [38c] with goblins that it didn't work.
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 07:15:06 am »
Used to be possible with 38, but since 39 and 40 I haven't been able to do it.

Back during the glory days of 38, goblin sieges were a wonderous thing. Tons of iron to melt down, and I had 8 butcher workshops, 8 tanner workshops, and everyone had butchering and tanning enabled as jobs.

An army of dwarves would walk out the front gates after the battle had finished, hauling in mangled goblin corpses, where they would then take a butcher's cleaver to the goblins, producing vast stockpiles of +goblin meat roasts+ and goblin leather trinkets and shoes.

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Alas, I haven't managed to replicate this behavior in 39 or 40, even by fiddling around with the civ ethics portion. If elves can eat everyone, why can't dwarves? Perhaps it just doesn't work that way in fortress mode anymore. :(
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Re: What Makes a creature Sapient?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 07:42:01 am »
ah it's been answered already, good. Time for some trolling.

A habit of eating dwarves would make a creature salient.
Mincing can make anything succulent.
Reading tomes of knowledge can make a sentient sapient.
Playing Dwarf Fortress can increase all of the above.
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