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jarathor

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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1155 on: January 15, 2010, 09:42:58 pm »

Wow - that's as surprising to find out as moss was - so this is why the organs in the new version will all have accurate colors. It'd be cool if someone can catch this in a video.
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1156 on: January 15, 2010, 10:06:05 pm »

You guys must not spend a lot of time in adventure mode :P

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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1157 on: January 15, 2010, 10:37:31 pm »

I do adventure mode all the time, I've just never known the guts were an object distinct from the creature.  I thought it was just a wound effect.

As for colors, did you know a deer's abdominal membrane is robin's egg blue?  Weirdest thing ever.
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« Reply #1158 on: January 15, 2010, 10:49:16 pm »

As for colors, did you know a deer's abdominal membrane is robin's egg blue?  Weirdest thing ever.

Never knew that....
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1159 on: January 15, 2010, 11:23:15 pm »

I do adventure mode all the time, I've just never known the guts were an object distinct from the creature.  I thought it was just a wound effect.

As for colors, did you know a deer's abdominal membrane is robin's egg blue?  Weirdest thing ever.

I guess they're indistinct in that you can't pick them up, but they do shoot out like that. I'll bet by the next update it'll be possible to kill something with its own innards. Which is disgusting. And cool.
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1160 on: January 16, 2010, 02:29:31 am »

The random title generator is awesome.  For instance, I just found, in the history of a single site, both an elf named Fewetha Shorestrap the Musical Tools of Skinning, who killed and ate 5 people in a single battle, and Ini Tickgills the Naughty shreds of splattering, who ripped somebody's arm off.
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1161 on: January 16, 2010, 02:31:10 am »

Toady did mention that we'll be able to strangle creatures with their own innards.
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1162 on: January 16, 2010, 02:55:05 am »

Actually, the devpost said specifically that you can only grab and pinch the exposed guts in this next release, but the rewrite opened up being able to strangle people with their guts in the future.

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« Reply #1163 on: January 16, 2010, 04:15:56 am »

Couldn't you strangle someone with a sword or something? I thought that suggested that you'd be able to strangle opponents with whatever was in your hand doing the grabbing, i.e. with guts as well, assuming you could grab them in the first place.
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1164 on: January 16, 2010, 04:20:07 am »

Couldn't you strangle someone with a sword or something? I thought that suggested that you'd be able to strangle opponents with whatever was in your hand doing the grabbing, i.e. with guts as well, assuming you could grab them in the first place.

Nope, held body parts (the non-amputated kind) are treated differently from held items.  Note that in the current version, you can't grab somebody's arm and use that to strangle them.  The wrestling system hasn't been changed much in the upcoming version.

Anyway, like Kael said, it was directly addressed in the devlog: "[...] refined the contents under pressure characteristics for guts; the ability to grab the exposed guts, attack or sever the exposed guts, the guts getting dirty when they drag on the ground and other such things all came basically for free. There are some dev items on that I guess... you can't yet strangle people with the exposed guts, though I suppose that's now within reach (grabbing the guts now would only open up a pinching attack I think, which would be the least of your adversary's problems)."
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« Reply #1165 on: January 16, 2010, 04:25:58 am »

Right, forgot that unless amputated, a body part didn't exactly count as an item for most applications. Makes sense in most cases.

If I understand that correctly, you could at least strangle someone with severed guts, right?
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1166 on: January 16, 2010, 04:35:50 am »

Yeah, insofar as the guts can be severed, which I doubt.  As far as the game knows, even in the next version, guts are just kinda sitting inside the lower body.  They aren't really connected in the first place, so how can you sever them?  What's needed is partial amputation, but I don't think the next version supports it.
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1167 on: January 16, 2010, 07:14:02 am »

Right, forgot that unless amputated, a body part didn't exactly count as an item for most applications. Makes sense in most cases.

If I understand that correctly, you could at least strangle someone with severed guts, right?

Considering that in the current version, you can put someone in a chokehold with a rock...
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1168 on: January 16, 2010, 01:39:10 pm »

I think you can also put them in a chokehold with a knife. sword.

This sort of doesn't make sense in that they shouldn't be choking...
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Re: Cool things you just noticed in DF
« Reply #1169 on: January 16, 2010, 02:33:27 pm »

If you look at the guts it will say stands in a pile of guts or something, it's been awhile though so I don't exactly remember.  It will also have a message for it when it is up against a wall.
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