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Aramec

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Epic Tantrum Spirals
« on: September 02, 2008, 09:57:53 pm »
I noticed as of 40c that my dwarves were having insane tantrum spirals at the drop of a hat.  Two or three dwarves would die, and all the dwarves which went by the graveyard would say 'they had seen a friend rot' or what have you.  It seems like any time a dwarf is near another dwarf that dies, he now becomes an inconsolable killing machine.

I thought it might of just been my dwarves, but then I saw a human caravan get attacked by some gobbos who arrived on the scene simultaneously..  They all went berserk after fighting with the goblins..  EVEN THEIR MULE.

I think the frequency of tantruming, depression and going berserk is a tad too high - I literally lose entire forts from two or three dwarves dying and the impending explosion of berserk tantrums.
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Ryo

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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 11:10:04 am »
I haven't been noticing any problems. My dwarves are constantly dying in sparring accidents, but luckily no-one seems to care. If I were you, I'd build coffins rather than tossing dead dwarves into a graveyard, though the berserk humans does seem rather strange.
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Yanlin

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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 11:12:18 am »
Sigh. Please refer to the quote database on the dwarf fortress wiki.

"The default mental state of a dwarf is madness. Sanity is a temporary condition - a PRIVILEGE you have to EARN!"
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 11:34:34 am »

"The default mental state of a living being is madness. Sanity is a temporary condition - a PRIVILEGE you have to EARN!"

Since human also seems to have this problem...
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One of the toads decided to go for a swim in the moat - presumably because he could path through the moat to my dwarves. He is not charging in, just loitering in the moat.

The toad is having a nice relaxing swim.
The goblin mounted on his back, however, is drowning.

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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 12:08:10 pm »
How DARE you modify a sacred quote!

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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 02:28:44 pm »
I think that was a little over the top...
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 03:28:17 pm »
Quote from: Draco18s on September 03, 2008, 02:28:44 pm
I think that was a little over the top...

Nah, it was exactly as many as it needed to be.  If he had used one less, it would have seemed weak and insufficient...
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Quote from: Yanlin on September 03, 2008, 12:08:10 pm
How DARE you modify a sacred quote!

THOU MUST BE PUNISHED!

M.C. Hammerer.
"You, peasant! Thou hast stolen a possession of a nobledwarf, and must be punished!"
"What? B-but I didn't-"
"Silence, knave! I shall teach you not to steal!"
*SMACK*
"CAN'T TOUCH THIS!"
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However... if he had added but one more, the entire joke would have come across as crass and heavy handed.
Quote from: Yanlin on September 03, 2008, 12:08:10 pm
How DARE you modify a sacred quote!

THOU MUST BE PUNISHED!

M.C. Hammerer.
"You, peasant! Thou hast stolen a possession of a nobledwarf, and must be punished!"
"What? B-but I didn't-"
"Silence, knave! I shall teach you not to steal!"
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"CAN'T TOUCH THIS!"
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 06:10:29 pm »
typical results of not legendary enugh dining rooms.
may i suggest to visit ikea asap?
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 07:08:56 pm »
Actually its quite easy to keep the morale of the dwarves @ very high. Legendary dining rooms, booze, decent food etc. Ive never seen a tantrum "spiral".
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008, 08:42:55 am »
Dwarves are made out of the same stuff as atomic bombs.

Basically, if one tantrums he explodes, releasing neutrinos and all that good stuff that makes other dwarves explode.

Also the beard contains an emergency lighter.
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2008, 11:18:21 pm »
Quote from: Granite26 on September 03, 2008, 03:28:17 pm
Granite26's entire post would be here, but that might just cross the line from overly long gag to screen breaking madness.

I concur!

(Most spirals seem to be the result of everyone being everyone's buddy. Two or three die of natural causes, people get all content. They rot, and they all get mildly annoyed. Meanwhile, one has a bad day and snaps, being mowed down by the military. Impacts the rest again, and voila, spiral. Keep your workforce at work (or in cubibles) and it ceases to become an issue.)
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 02:42:58 am »
So... the key to efficiency and lack of tantrum spirals is to make sure your dwarves are too overworked to socialise.

Unfortunately you can't get away from breaks and whatnot but an Overseer can dream...
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Re: Epic Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 03:17:16 am »
breakes are not a problem at all.
a dwarf never will start a romance, at last this is my expirience.
if two dwarfs in a meeting area have no job and no partner, they will start a romance imidiately if the gender fits.
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