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[wallish]

I run firefox, but I have multiple add-ons that may be playing havoc with the web page. Ill try deleting the cache and cookies and see if that has an effect. It still doesn't explain why I am randomly logged on to other peoples accounts though... If I really wanted to I could change other accounts (like sell their stuff) due to this bug, but I don't.

edit- I tried to log in again after clearing the cache but was meet by this:

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It says I am logged in, yet I am still not logged in?!? I try to click my profile and it brings me back to the login page. I enter in my username and password and am meet by this screen again.

That is a very weird glitch.  Best thing I can suggest then is to try disabling an extension at a time to check which one(s) can cause problems.

You could also try loading it up in Chrome, Opera, or even Internet Explorer (boo, hiss).

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

I tried what you said, but it didn't help. Now I am getting this "CSRF attack detected." message when I log in.  I give up. I think I will have to leave eRepublik now, bye...

[E. Albright]

Eww. That's not cool. Well, it's understandable if you feel you should leave, and if their slipshod programming is working out that badly for you, I'd say you're right.

[E. Albright]

UMH employees: we are at a crossroad. There's exactly no way in Hell that eThais are going to be able to afford our product at current market prices. None. We have enough Wood to finish the House we're on, and build 2/3s or so of another. Right now, it'll take 1200 baht to buy Wood enough to construct a House. Labor is running ~200 baht per House (6x4x8, plus 1x1x8), and we're taking 8 days to build one. I'm willing to continue constructing Q3 Houses on commission for internal clients (i.e., us), but if we take this tact we need to be sure we can afford to do so.

We currently have 1500 baht in the company. Do we wish to continue producing Houses for ourselves? If we do, then we need to commit to paying for their construction. I would be willing to pony up 1200 baht for the next House we finish, and at the same time give my current Q2 House to our last homeless employee. That would give us some room to breathe. However, it doesn't solve the overarching problem of not having a market for our product.

It is at this juncture that I again raise the possibility of switching to defense contracting (such as it were) for the short term. This would help consolidate Construction workers, plus allow us as workers to accumulate some more substantial capital reserves. Plus, it' be "national service". Above all, it would give the economy a chance to stabilize and hopefully grow before UMH resumed production. However, we should all go, or none of us should. Given productivity rules, a few of us leaving UMH hurts it a great deal, so we really should move as a bloc if we move at all.

Think about it. Whatever the consensus is will be fine with me. We can keep working in UMH or we can shift temporarily. It'll be 2-3 days before we finish our current House, so the decision isn't pressing.

[omagaalpha]

What about exporting housing for while get money from them? I have 5 gold that willing to use to buy Q3 House .

[E. Albright]

To export, we need to throw together 20g for a license. And we need to sit down and work out if we can make a profit after import tariffs. Producing a Q3 House will take us 1400 baht, which is 7g at current market prices. We need to find someplace where we can sell it for more than this even after accounting for taxes (or alternately, somewhere where we can buy dirt-cheap Wood to send home to cut costs so we can sell cheaper and still make a profit).

This is likely to get harder, not easier, in the coming days, as Gold is crashing in relation to the baht. It's lost about 50-60% of its value in the last two weeks, and it's still in freefall. To this effect, unless we're planning on buying an export license, I'd prefer to receive baht in exchange for a House rather than Gold. And like I said, I'm concerned about how feasible it'll be to export. It may work, and if we find someplace with low taxes and cheap Wood, it could work very well. But barring that, it may just be throwing away 20g on a license that'll be worthless in two weeks if the value of Gold keeps falling.

[omagaalpha]

Ah so then guess not option then

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

How about selling it, and saying that you did so because you are tired of running a business and want to spend more time in politics. Someone will buy it without doing the proper calculations to figure out if it is worth the cash (probably someone from TNT) and then regret doing so later when they find out there is no market for q3 houses.

[E. Albright]

It's not that it's not an option, but it isn't an easy or risk-free option. It may be that we could do it and make out well enough, but given the current Gold situation it'd be a substantial risk. 5 minutes work, f'r'instance, shows we could almost make this work with Canada, though we'd need to sell like 20 Houses to recoup the license fee. Their Wood is actually more expensive than ours, though, so this would be straight-up underselling them based on that and our cheaper labor costs. It's possible we could find a country where it would be profitable to export to. But the key point is that it wouldn't and couldn't be a short-term solution, as the 20g export license would mean we'd have to stick with it for a long time to recoup our investment.

[E. Albright]

That's... sneaky, AFD. But to get its "market value", we'd need to ask a fortune... like, 80g. I doubt anyone would buy it. And also, while we do now have a number of politicians working at UMH, it's still a collective, so that excuse would need to fly for all of us.

[beorn080]

I think we should finish the house and then move to the defense system company. I find it funny that Jack Roberts is doing the same thing that Rockman was doing to "improve" the economy by crashing the value of the baht. If the baht maintained its value of 1500 THB = 1 gold then we could make massive profits exporting houses. I may send Jack a PM about that.

Speaking of presidency, I have been thinking of tossing my hat into the ring. I seem to be the only active opposition member who is at least willing to run.

[E. Albright]

Beorn: he's not doing it. It's doing itself. The high price of Gold in eThailand was scarcity-driven. EThai Gold is now less scarce because of Hard Worker Gold, and because of foreign citizens coming here to sell Gold and buy extremely cheap products with the massive amounts of baht they get for it. Jack's done nothing but take advantage of the crashing Gold price to stockpile it for the government.

(Also: regarding presidential nominations, do not freak about the current gambit in re: TRP support. It is a gambit. The promised discussion will come shortly.)

[wallish]

I tried what you said, but it didn't help. Now I am getting this "CSRF attack detected." message when I log in.  I give up. I think I will have to leave eRepublik now, bye...

You tried a different browser and it is still messing up?  Don't know what to say to that...

Also, why do we have just about no food in eThai?  I just checked and there were two companies selling Q1 food, with about 17-20 total stock between them...

[beorn080]

He is somewhat forcing it down though by refusing high priced offers.

[E. Albright]

Beorn: um? He's forcing the price down by not paying whatever price the sellers ask? I can't really see that as forcing it down. If Gold trade has any meaning, it includes purchase and sale by others than the government. Yes, he could announce that the government will now pay 400 baht/Gold, but that would be artificially (and probably unsustainably) propping it up, not merely neglecting to force it down. The price would only stay that high as long as he as actively buying up whatever was put on the market; as soon as he stopped, it'd start falling again as sellers desperate to unload their Gold raced to bottom. The price of Gold was in freefall well before he announced his intentions to not buy higher than a fixed price (though mind you, he has been buying it as it's slid down). We're seeing eThai Gold scarcity disappear, and that's why the price is plummeting.