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Author Topic: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled  (Read 3341 times)

krumlink

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Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« on: August 29, 2008, 08:14:27 pm »

I have a miner walking around with a broken head, which defies logic. How can a miner walk around with a broken skull? I would say if they have wounds above moderate they need to be taken care of.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 08:50:03 pm »

You can walk around with a Broken head in real life... depending on several factors (Not saying it is likely). The most dangerous part about Head Truama isn't the skull but the brain.

Anyhow the reason he is walking around with a head injury is I THINK the head is one of the few Never healing injuries being: Brain, Neck, Spine, and head

I really don't know
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 09:22:28 pm »

No, your head will recover, the only things that do not are the body parts with [NERVOUS] or [THOUGHT] in there tags. In vanilla DF, this is just the neck, spine, and brain for humanoids.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 09:34:21 pm »

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Does your guy keep passing out? I have one like that in my current fortress who does, and the job cancellation spam gets really annoying.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 09:49:15 pm »

Does your guy keep passing out? I have one like that in my current fortress who does, and the job cancellation spam gets really annoying.

The answer to that my friend, lies in the simple power of a dwarf, a lever, and a bridge. ;D
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 10:51:49 pm »

You can fracture your skull and live to recover easy. Happens all the time. When it occurs at the forehead level and up then it's problematic.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2008, 12:01:29 am »

I read a story once about a highjacking on a FedEx flight where a man brought a heavy object - either a wrench or a hammer, I can't remember - during his stowaway. In midair, he beat the pilot over the head, fracturing his skull right over the crown. Once the highjacker was subdued by the copilot and another man onboard, the pilot was able to land the plane successfully despite having a horribly broken skull, and survived with no ill effects save a bit of blood loss.

It's not at all like a joint or limb. There the joint or limb will not be able to hold weight, and will be in horrible, horrible pain. The skull is just a shield for the head, and is not a joint or a limb. Having it broken means you could get infected if not properly treated and dressed, and you most likely will have a hell of a headache and a good amount of pain, but you would be able to get up, walk around, and even do your job while it heals - so long as someone bandages it up.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2008, 12:03:41 am by Jetman123 »
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 12:13:07 am »

I read a story once about a highjacking on a FedEx flight where a man brought a heavy object - either a wrench or a hammer, I can't remember - during his stowaway. In midair, he beat the pilot over the head, fracturing his skull right over the crown. Once the highjacker was subdued by the copilot and another man onboard, the pilot was able to land the plane successfully despite having a horribly broken skull, and survived with no ill effects save a bit of blood loss.

It's not at all like a joint or limb. There the joint or limb will not be able to hold weight, and will be in horrible, horrible pain. The skull is just a shield for the head, and is not a joint or a limb. Having it broken means you could get infected if not properly treated and dressed, and you most likely will have a hell of a headache and a good amount of pain, but you would be able to get up, walk around, and even do your job while it heals - so long as someone bandages it up.

Unless it is really bad (i.e. brain is showing though) as then you can be in some pain as your brain is exposed to the outside airs.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 12:19:09 am »

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Do brain damages shake up personality traits? I'm sure Toady has it in him to segment the brain and associate appropriately -  a frontal lobe injury would set the dwarf to seek short term rewards, and so on.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2008, 02:22:11 am »

http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=23797.msg265333

I'm pretty sure brain damage has an effect.   


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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2008, 04:19:08 am »

The issue isn't whether or not Toady can code brain damage - he clearly can.  The issue is that all dwarven mothers deliberately inflict brain damage on their children at birth as a rite of passage.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2008, 04:30:04 am »

He could, but damaged zones would be selected the same way an arrow through the upper body selects organs.
Meaning each and every area would be damaged.
I wonder what would happen.
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2008, 07:49:22 am »

I have a miner walking around with a broken head, which defies logic. How can a miner walk around with a broken skull? I would say if they have wounds above moderate they need to be taken care of.

Well you can walk around with a broken skull in real life also, if theres no brain damage at least... ;D


I'm pretty sure brain damage has an effect.   


It does.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2008, 07:51:02 am by Tormy »
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Re: Wounds to the head, specifically Broken and mangled
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2008, 11:21:52 am »

Well it would look akward with a dwarf with a smashed skull walking around.
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2008, 11:26:20 am »

Well it would look akward with a dwarf with a smashed skull walking around.

They don't seem to mind that all their animals are covered head to toe with blood and vomit...  I don't see how a bloody head mangled dwarf would really startle them
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