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[WorkerDrone]

Ah and here is the kicker. Said obscure philosopher still gets to LIVE.

And chances are, him (she...IT, okay it.) being a Super Mutant and all, he'll get to live for several hundred years onward.

Oh, and what's the deal with Charon?

The mother fucker didn't want to go in even though Radiation HEALED him, he didn't JUST have immunity to radiation, it healed him, and he wouldn't go in...JUST BECAUSE.

"Oh yeah, I've already done enough shit for you, and even though I'm under contract, and this pretty much could be done in maybe a minute, just walk in, push a button, and walk out, yay, everybody has a happy ending, I'm going to choose NOW to screw you over and saw no. Yeah. Because that's just fucking brilliant. Makes PERFECT SENSE."

AUAUUGAHUGUAHGUHAUHGUAHUGAU!!!

[Servant Corps]

Have you guys heard of the concept known as "heroic sacrifice"? That's what all your teammates wanted you to do. A heroic sacrifice, it will make you better in the long term. You seem to resist against something that will, in the end, make you famous forever and ever, and will make your teammates very proud of being associated with such a famous person who sacrificed himself for the good of society.

Gah. I thought you guys would like being famous...

[Sowelu]

I played FO1 again recently.  Good game.

However the writing in both games is bad, and FO2 is waaaaay worse.

No seriously.  It's tremendously inconsistent.  In FO2, compare the dialogue at Redding with, oh, most other places.  It's often possible to tell which writer worked on which areas (these two are similar, those two have awful humor, these ones have these bugs...)

FO1 at least had humor that worked, FO2 plowed it right into the ground.

[Jackrabbit]

Eh, I liked it. The car but though, that pissed me off. Pissed. Me. Off.

[Sowelu]

Eh, I liked it. The car bug though, that pissed me off. Pissed. Me. Off.

Yeah.  Car bug was awful.

The car trunk however was such an awesome thing.

I just wish there was some kind of siege that you had to withstand using only the contents of your car, that would have made an awesome add-on.  My car always had like three thousand rounds of 5mm and a couple miniguns, even though I had no points in heavy weapons...  I collected every gun and ammo ever made in there.  If I had a reason to USE them, that would be awesome.  I never did.

[Sergius]

And that's where things DO get stupid. Why couldn't have we just sent our Super Mutant companion in? He's IMMUNE to radiation, it would be STUPID not to think of that. And its impossible NOT to meet him, he's part of the main quest.

I presume that he did that because he wanted to honor you. This is your chance to be in the history book as the Hero! HERO! Why should he take all the credit? Think of the fame that you'll get for sacrificing your life for the good of D.C.! All that fame leads to immortality, and immortality is a nice thing to have. Meanwhile, he doesn't need any fame, he's fine with being an obscure philosopher.

"Some pirates achieved immortality by great deeds of cruelty or derring-do. Some achieved immortality by amassing great wealth. But the captain had long ago decided that he would, on the whole, prefer to achieve immortality by not dying." - Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic.

Have you guys heard of the concept known as "heroic sacrifice"? That's what all your teammates wanted you to do. A heroic sacrifice, it will make you better in the long term. You seem to resist against something that will, in the end, make you famous forever and ever, and will make your teammates very proud of being associated with such a famous person who sacrificed himself for the good of society.

Gah. I thought you guys would like being famous...

Jumping into piranha-infested waters and swimming a mile to save a drowning person is not self-sacrifice if you're standing next to the only guy with the piranha-proof wet suit and rocket-propelled flippers. That's just being an idiot.

[engy]

Ah and here is the kicker. Said obscure philosopher still gets to LIVE.

And chances are, him (she...IT, okay it.) being a Super Mutant and all, he'll get to live for several hundred years onward.

Oh, and what's the deal with Charon?

The mother fucker didn't want to go in even though Radiation HEALED him, he didn't JUST have immunity to radiation, it healed him, and he wouldn't go in...JUST BECAUSE.

"Oh yeah, I've already done enough shit for you, and even though I'm under contract, and this pretty much could be done in maybe a minute, just walk in, push a button, and walk out, yay, everybody has a happy ending, I'm going to choose NOW to screw you over and saw no. Yeah. Because that's just fucking brilliant. Makes PERFECT SENSE."

AUAUUGAHUGUAHGUHAUHGUAHUGAU!!!

It's sad the only post I've read of this topic is this one; it's been months since I've played Fallout 3; and I can already say that this is about the stupid ****ing ending.

Whats a billion times worse is I had him with me, he watched me die, literally like a day after I saved him from prison.

And why did it have to end at all!  I wasn't done with everything yet, I didn't know it was going to end. Gah, worst ending ever... I liked Fallout 1, 2, hell even Tactics better; but none were anything like 3.

[Virtz]

I played FO1 again recently.  Good game.

However the writing in both games is bad, and FO2 is waaaaay worse.

How is it bad? I mean, FO2 might've gone all over the place with the setting in general (and allowed some rather odd responces from the PC), but I can't recall anything I'd call bad in FO1. Especially compared to FO3.

[WorkerDrone]

Don't get me wrong. I love playing FO3. CERTAINLY not for the story, no it REALLY DOES suck as much ass as all of you guys would say.

However, I am a man of simple pleasures. Should I want to use PRESIDENT LINCOLNS RIFLE, his god damn rifle! I know, I know! To gun down SLAVERS, and that's WONDERFUL irony right there, than how can you guys rightly poke a hole in my fun.

PRESIDENT FREAKING LINCOLNS GUN!

That is so awesome.

[Zaranthan]

Aye. Much like the World of Darkness, FO3 is great for the sandbox, not the metaplot.

[Jackrabbit]

Have you guys heard of the concept known as "heroic sacrifice"? That's what all your teammates wanted you to do. A heroic sacrifice, it will make you better in the long term. You seem to resist against something that will, in the end, make you famous forever and ever, and will make your teammates very proud of being associated with such a famous person who sacrificed himself for the good of society.

Gah. I thought you guys would like being famous...

If someone told me to kill myself despite the fact I didn't have to, because it would make me famous and elevate my status to that of a legend, I would knock them down and kick them in the kidneys for emphasis.

[WorkerDrone]

I would have simply dropped them with a fist to the FACE and than left them writhing on the ground.

And if they had said something even MORE moronic, I might even attack them with a hard cover book.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Welcome to the wonderful world of post Oblivion Bethesda!  It's not that Bethesda are idiots, so much as that they're sort of stupid, but everyone else is stupider.  They did leave out the ability to have someone who wouldn't die from the radiation go in there to activate the system, but that was only so they could sell it to you later in the new DLC they just released.  In Broken Steel you can now have Fawkes do it, and regardless of whether or not you do it yourself you wake up 2 weeks later in a Brotherhood hospital.

[Servant Corps]

And that's where things DO get stupid. Why couldn't have we just sent our Super Mutant companion in? He's IMMUNE to radiation, it would be STUPID not to think of that. And its impossible NOT to meet him, he's part of the main quest.

I presume that he did that because he wanted to honor you. This is your chance to be in the history book as the Hero! HERO! Why should he take all the credit? Think of the fame that you'll get for sacrificing your life for the good of D.C.! All that fame leads to immortality, and immortality is a nice thing to have. Meanwhile, he doesn't need any fame, he's fine with being an obscure philosopher.

"Some pirates achieved immortality by great deeds of cruelty or derring-do. Some achieved immortality by amassing great wealth. But the captain had long ago decided that he would, on the whole, prefer to achieve immortality by not dying." - Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic.

The problem is, you will die, as you are still a human being. It's not a choice between living and dying, it's a choice of either dying heroically by committing self-sacrifice, even when there are others who could do the deed...or dying ignobly later on in life when the player decides to forget about playing TES: Fallout and. It is better to die in a blaze of (nuclear) glory than it is to go out in a whimper, which is what I believe you guys are desiring here.

[Jackrabbit]

And that's where things DO get stupid. Why couldn't have we just sent our Super Mutant companion in? He's IMMUNE to radiation, it would be STUPID not to think of that. And its impossible NOT to meet him, he's part of the main quest.

I presume that he did that because he wanted to honor you. This is your chance to be in the history book as the Hero! HERO! Why should he take all the credit? Think of the fame that you'll get for sacrificing your life for the good of D.C.! All that fame leads to immortality, and immortality is a nice thing to have. Meanwhile, he doesn't need any fame, he's fine with being an obscure philosopher.

"Some pirates achieved immortality by great deeds of cruelty or derring-do. Some achieved immortality by amassing great wealth. But the captain had long ago decided that he would, on the whole, prefer to achieve immortality by not dying." - Terry Pratchett, The Colour of Magic.

The problem is, you will die, as you are still a human being. It's not a choice between living and dying, it's a choice of either dying heroically by committing self-sacrifice, even when there are others who could do the deed...or dying ignobly later on in life when the player decides to forget about playing TES: Fallout and. It is better to die in a blaze of (nuclear) glory than it is to go out in a whimper, which is what I believe you guys are desiring here.

Yes, that is what we desire. This is not a linear game. The ending prevented us from continuing to explore the world with a character we like playing, which is something Fo2 did well. I would also like to explore the world after I saved it. Besides, having a massivly open world and then ending the story completely is stupid.