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Author Topic: Better goblin sieges with war machines.  (Read 2189 times)

dfshortbus

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Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« on: August 26, 2008, 07:48:38 pm »

I'm not sure if this is going to be included in the army arc but I think to break up some of the monotony goblins should carry siege weapons with them in their bigger sieges. Maybe just a few to start out with so Toady would not be overwhelmed and so he could focus on balancing a few at a time. I think three good ones would be catapults that would damage walls and dwarves, battering rams that could knock down walls, doors and floodgates, and maybe a couple of crazy ones charging in carrying some sort of exploding barrel. All of those fit within the time period that he wants to stick too as well.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2008, 08:05:28 pm »

Suggested before. Good idea though, hence why it keeps coming up.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2008, 05:47:50 am »

Yes, definitely a must.

If dwarven walls are teared down by catapults from distances out of crossbowmens range,
dwarven soldiers are forced to come out to destroy the war machine/s (or wait for the final assault after the walls are torn down and the way to the entrance of the dwarven fortress is free from obstacles) 
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2008, 06:14:52 am »

or dwarfes just need to put real obsidian walls not constructed ones to don't have to fear ...
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2008, 06:19:49 am »

ladders / seige towers.

Might not always be useful though.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2008, 06:48:16 am »

or dwarfes just need to put real obsidian walls not constructed ones to don't have to fear ...

Which is why goblin tunnelers have been suggested.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2008, 07:24:58 am »

Suggested before. Good idea though, hence why it keeps coming up.

Indeed it was suggested, just like many other siege related stuff. Toady surely knows about them.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2008, 07:34:43 am »

or dwarfes just need to put real obsidian walls not constructed ones to don't have to fear ...

of course, because if there is one place where I really want to be it's standing on top of an obsidian wall being pounded by large granite blocks thrown by a catapult. All these surgically sharp shrapnels flying around in the air are merely a nuisance.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2008, 11:41:42 am »

So obviously we need to make the catapult ammunition able to make natural walls cave in.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2008, 11:53:13 am »

I suggested a steam powered drill machine before, and people said it should be used by goblins as a siege machine. Add it to the list I guess.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2008, 12:33:13 pm »

No complaining here, just an observation.

It's funny how every thread that suggests what's already been suggested STARTS with "Been suggested" but becomes ever body restating old ideas.

Alternatively, it gets linked to the bloats and either dies shamefully or becomes a flame fest. Usually the former.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 03:31:18 pm »

No complaining here, just an observation.

It's funny how every thread that suggests what's already been suggested STARTS with "Been suggested" but becomes ever body restating old ideas.

Alternatively, it gets linked to the bloats and either dies shamefully or becomes a flame fest. Usually the former.

Perhaps we should make a master topic and list all "good" suggestions in that.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2008, 08:31:07 am »

Go for it, but be careful with your definition of good.  It's either your suggestion or it's the group's suggestion.  The minute you get partial...

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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2008, 08:38:57 am »

Go for it, but be careful with your definition of good.  It's either your suggestion or it's the group's suggestion.  The minute you get partial...

Yes, its quite subjective that what is "good". We obviously cannot list all suggestions what has been made in this subforum in a master topic..so actually a topic like that might be a bit offensive for certain people...if they wont find their suggestions listed at least. I will think about it.
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Re: Better goblin sieges with war machines.
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2008, 08:43:16 am »

I think it would be cool if goblins set up camp and created the siege engines in the field. Maybe they could stay immobile like they are currently.
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