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[lumin]

Jagged Alliance 2 sounds pretty cool.  I've heard a lot about it over the years, but never played it - I'll have to try it.

What about fantasy-based tactical RPGs?  I keep hearing that Disgaea is really awesome, but I believe it is for PSP only. Most are only avaliable on a hand-held, are there any for the PC?

[smeej]

Just a reminder to NOT buy JA2 on Steam!

Disgaea (and the other Nippon Ichi games like La Pucelle and Phantom Brave) are PS2 games. They are really fun but sort of open in their difficulty in that you can stumble into level 80 enemies pretty quick. Or get a character up to level 9999 and have them do billions of points of damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHnYIqdZL6k&feature=related

They also have versions of the games on PSP but they tend to run like garbage.

Actually the SS engine was decent, because of the destructable terrain. JA2 is really missing that part.

Oh no complaints about the SS engine here. Just the storyline/tech level.

Nothing like stealthing in, identifying the building the bad guys are holed up in, planting mines on every single window and door, then shooting out a trapped window to start the chain reaction. 

Then again, JA2 runs decently on my crappy laptop, unlike SS, so it's great for killing time in airports and such.

I just wish SS had the ability to scale walls! But yeah, rigging exits to blow, using spotters to have your sniper shoot enemies thru three walls, and just the general ability to own and control a situation made that game great.

Also, crawling out of the ceiling and killing the last member in a patrol and dragging him back upstairs before his allies turn around.
All games need destructable terrain.

[smeej]

DOUBLE POST.

[a1s]

Actually the SS engine was decent, because of the destructable terrain. JA2 is really missing that part.

um... I might be wrong (as it has been quite some time since I played), but while JA2 didn't have deformable terrain (does SS have that?), you could still destroy walls, doors and other such stuff (with heavy explosives that is. Ah Grunty and a mortar are less then 3  ).

[smeej]

Also, the makers of SS are developing JA3.

Let's hope for the best!

[lumin]

Wow, I just found out there was an Ogre Battle 64 and Gamespot gave it a 9.1.  Sounds even better than the original.

[Keiseth]

Wow, I just found out there was an Ogre Battle 64 and Gamespot gave it a 9.1.  Sounds even better than the original.

It's *extremely* good. Nostalgia dictates that I should like the original more, but this isn't the case (though I liked it immensely.)

I personally love the psuedo turn-based/RTS nature of Ogre Battle games. The fact that units move very slowly compared to an RTS allows a lot more strategy- back-attacks, ambushes with forests and so on.

[Soulwynd]

Did anyone mention the disgaea series yet?

If not... There... Go google for it.

[smeej]

Wow, I just found out there was an Ogre Battle 64 and Gamespot gave it a 9.1.  Sounds even better than the original.

It's *extremely* good. Nostalgia dictates that I should like the original more, but this isn't the case (though I liked it immensely.)

I personally love the psuedo turn-based/RTS nature of Ogre Battle games. The fact that units move very slowly compared to an RTS allows a lot more strategy- back-attacks, ambushes with forests and so on.

Yeah, OB64 also wins as a more approachable game. No infinite healing units forever or hyperimpossible maps! Plus, making a dragoon rules and there are actually a lot of really cool endings that make it worth playin thru a dozen times.

[Torak]

Wow, I just found out there was an Ogre Battle 64 and Gamespot gave it a 9.1.  Sounds even better than the original.

It's *extremely* good. Nostalgia dictates that I should like the original more, but this isn't the case (though I liked it immensely.)

I personally love the psuedo turn-based/RTS nature of Ogre Battle games. The fact that units move very slowly compared to an RTS allows a lot more strategy- back-attacks, ambushes with forests and so on.

I've got ogre Battle, but I loved Ogre Tactics so much more, which is odd considering I got it long after I got final fantasy tactics, which is just ogre tactics with less tactics.

[Langdon]

Just a reminder to NOT buy JA2 on Steam!

If you are stuck with JA2 on Steam, apparently you can install the JA2v113 mod over that and get most of the bugs fixed.

http://www.ja-galaxy-forum.com/board/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=57712&page=1

[smeej]

Thank you! I knew this was possible but I couldn't find the information anywhere. I award thee +1 internet.

[Puck]

I really enjoyed "fallout tactics" but its a lot more tactics than rpg.

[Keiseth]

I've got ogre Battle, but I loved Ogre Tactics so much more, which is odd considering I got it long after I got final fantasy tactics, which is just ogre tactics with less tactics.

"Let Us Cling Together" (another Queen song...) for the PSX, or "The Knight of Lodis" (I think) for the GBA?

The PSX one isn't bad at all... but I think I prefer the GBA one to it. They're both incredible games, though.

[Sean Mirrsen]

Yeah, I liked the GBA one too. I'd really like an RTS for the GBA though (don't get me started on Mech Platoon - that one's thirty-two kinds of awful). I don't understand, what prevented them from porting Dune 2 or Herzog Zwei to it?