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[BlakeKoris]

Now, I'm confused with how this game works sometimes, and just how much ethics have to do with playing.

The fact that a baby with a broken lower Body and Right hand, that falls unconscious every few seconds, is just about ignored by the other Dwarves, even her own Father. Why would they do that? That's just not right, dammit.

Anyway, has anyone else had this happen? And if so, did the Babies make it to adulthood?

[jp.mech]

They're not completely ignored. Had the mom and pop die in a mess of a siege. I hadn't known they even had a baby until I got job cancellation spam about someone being unreachable, to give them food/water.  Upon searching my halls, I found a baby in a dry, indoor moat, which was only accessible through a locked hatch. The baby had fallen down. The spam stopped as soon as the hatch was unlocked and I saw someone feed the baby.

I don't remember if the baby made it to childhood. I do remember a bronze colossus or some such nasty coming in and making a mess out of the rest of my tantruming, bridge destroying dwarfs. The only reason I hadn't lost was because the survivors were the wounded resting in their rooms.
I abandoned as soon as the baron came with the next wave of immigrant.

But this was before relationships were in, so I don't know if there's anything different with the way babies with no mom is handled.

[BlakeKoris]

So far the One I'm dealing with still has a father. The Mother had gone into a Mood, and had everything she needed except Silk Cloth. She almost went on an insane Rampage with the baby in her arms, but her Dogs took her down, injuring the kid, while said kid got locked in a cage.

One Lever Pull later, she gets some water and food, and proceeds to wander around the First Floor, with little to no help, as she passes out every few seconds. The Father, is simply standing at the well, doing nothing.

Because of this, I'm doing all I can to train this Girl into a Champion Mace Lord/Sword Master.

[Teldin]

Man, you got off lucky. When a baby's mother failed a strange mood, she went berserk and the macelords killed her.. Then her husband threw himself into the local drinking pond, followed a month later by the wandering baby.

[BlakeKoris]

Ouch, hope they weren't very important.

Anyway, I'm worried for the girl. She's not been brought to a Hospital Bed, and I worry for her wounds. Her Right Hand and Lower Body are broken, she's feeling Pain in her Left Upper Arm, and she's falling Unconscious.

Because of her determination to Live, I've given her a Tomb of her Own.

EDIT: Aaand she was killed by my own Weapon Trap. What the Hell.

[yggiz]

Don't sweat it too much, I had an orphaned baby continuously jumping into a dry moat, probably trying to commit suicide. I think mine was miserable though, anyway.

[Spey]

EDIT: Aaand she was killed by my own Weapon Trap. What the Hell.

....and so the great dwarven circle of life continues.

[Teldin]

Ouch, hope they weren't very important.

Anyway, I'm worried for the girl. She's not been brought to a Hospital Bed, and I worry for her wounds. Her Right Hand and Lower Body are broken, she's feeling Pain in her Left Upper Arm, and she's falling Unconscious.

Because of her determination to Live, I've given her a Tomb of her Own.

EDIT: Aaand she was killed by my own Weapon Trap. What the Hell.

At the moment, if a dwarf falls unconscious on a trap, it triggers the trap on them. So your baby fell asleep on one and died.

Much worse is when I had my 7 dwarves just finish setting up a beautiful set of obsidian short sword weapon traps.. and then 2 of them decide to go to sleep on the floor there because I hadn't made any beds and immediately got eviscerated.   

[sneakey pete]

I've got a baby with....

a broken upper body, completely broken left and right arms, a mangled left upper leg, a pierced lung and a bruised spine.

One of the perils of having a large open pit in the middle of the stairwell.

edit: it grew up! Now it'll just have to rest for... the next 10 odd years

[WCG]

When a baby's mother failed a strange mood, she went berserk and the macelords killed her.. Then her husband threw himself into the local drinking pond, followed a month later by the wandering baby.

Heh, heh. I didn't realize you couldn't improve the mood of insanely-miserable dwarves, so when one of mine went nuts (I didn't have any shells for her), I fixed up her bedroom really, really nice. She even wandered into the bedroom a few times, but she never slept - or ate or drank - so she died of dehydration.

But her husband was so enchanted by that wonderful bedroom, that he wasn't even unhappy after his wife died. Yeah, such a tragedy,... but just LOOK at this bachelor pad!



Bill

[BlakeKoris]

Yeah, after that one of mine had her Mom die, and she ended up in the cage, she was freed and given water, next thing I knew she was Estatic.

[Axe27]

Actually, I've had some pretty amazing survival stories before. I had one dwarf with all of his internal organs damaged survive (Unfortunately, his was disabled so, I had to hammerdwarf him),

[tp12]

my fisherdwarf is walking talking and running about with a pierced lung... he even tore apart a goblin when i wasnt looking.

edit: he just fell unconsious on a cage trap... perhaps i should build the cage in his tomb (gave him one for being awsome.)

[Naero]

Yeah, unfortunately the AI isn't exactly what you could call intelligent at the minute - Dwarves will happily watch their own families messily die in pain so long as they have a pretty bedroom to return to, they have no sense of context ('WE'RE ALL DOOMED, THE GOBLIN HORDE IS UPON US AND-- oh, pretty socks! I'll gather those...'), and they have no real 'memory' (at least I don't think they do, unless something subtle is being recorded behind the scenes. Very, very subtle...).

I would assume this will improve in time, as with everything else in the game, but given how much the game lags at the minute just calculating path-finding, I wonder...

EDIT - of course, you can have just as much fun anthropomorphising the AI. Is the AI stupid, or are all your Dwarves just supposed to be hateful, empathically-challenged misanthropes who don't care if their own infant children die in the street? It's all in the imagination...

[tp12]

my caged dwarf just went beserk... TO THE ARENA!!! (hes still getting a tomb.)