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[lumin]

Isn't there something unconstitutional about a company intruding on my privacy every time I use the product I bought?  For all we know, they are reading my email every time I run the game.

I'm sorry, but when did my business playing a game I own become somebody else's business?  If the powers that be are so concerned with me doing something "illegal" that they need to intrude on my privacy, then there is something wrong with their system, not my freedom.

I am buying a product, just like any other product.  When I buy a vaccum, does the company need to come by every 10 days and rummage through my house to make sure I haven't hacked it to try to give it away to my friends?

[Soulwynd]

Either way I dont understand that why this game needs to have securom protection at all.
You will have to validate the game online in order to play. That should be totally enough.
Pirates will crack the online validation + securom also, so basically EA is just f*cking with the players who will actually buy the game...

You don't need an account to play spore. So you don't have to validate online as in, username/password. You don't have to be online to play it at all. This is why mmorpgs don't use securom and spore does.

[Zironic]

Isn't there something unconstitutional about a company intruding on my privacy every time I use the product I bought?  For all we know, they are reading my email every time I run the game.

I'm sorry, but when did my business playing a game I own become somebody else's business?  If the powers that be are so concerned with me doing something "illegal" that they need to intrude on my privacy, then there is something wrong with their system, not my freedom.

I am buying a product, just like any other product.  When I buy a vaccum, does the company need to come by every 10 days and rummage through my house to make sure I haven't hacked it to try to give it away to my friends?

I personally don't mind, because SecuRom gives you back your install if you register it online and it registers an uninstall, and unless your buying 3 new pcs or reformatting constantly, then 4 or 3 is enough.

[Tormy]

Either way I dont understand that why this game needs to have securom protection at all.
You will have to validate the game online in order to play. That should be totally enough.
Pirates will crack the online validation + securom also, so basically EA is just f*cking with the players who will actually buy the game...

You don't need an account to play spore. So you don't have to validate online as in, username/password. You don't have to be online to play it at all. This is why mmorpgs don't use securom and spore does.

Yeah thats makes sense..the problem is that pirates will easily crack that securom also. 
They have even cracked Starforce, and that used hardware encryptions...

[Cthulhu]

100 installs isn't enough, and not because you won't need that many.  It's not enough because it's completely ridiculous that the number of times we can install a game is being restricted to stop piracy.  That's like banning paper because people use it to roll marijuana.

[Soulwynd]

Oh, pirates can do anything, I've done anything myself.

Back in the day our tutorial on cracking was to crack the debugger you used to crack itself. I even got an email from the FBI about the reveng info I had posted in a shady site.

It's one of the reasons securom doesn't bother as much as starforce does. Both can be bypassed, securom can even be bypassed without cracks. But starforce is nasty to your system.

As for Cthulhu posts, software owning is a shady thing legally. At the moment, you don't own software, you may own the physical media if that's what you bought, but the installed (usable) form is based on licensing, so even if you buy your software with a physical media, what you're actually buying is the driver's license you need to take it for a spin. So yeah, they can say "This software is for one computer only." or "You can only install this version of windows in one home PC." or "Yeah, with corporate windows, you can install it in 100 commercial PCs." or even "Only 3 installs allowed.".

Specially for business, faulty licenses can get you sued, taxed, jailed, etc.

[Cthulhu]

Curses.  So what did the email say?

[Asheron]

Curses.  So what did the email say?

We hereby declare you are officially found guilty and shall be approached by a hammerer soon. Contact your lawyer to find out how many strikes you shall get.

[Soulwynd]

Actually, it didn't contain a single threat, only that it contained material that taught people how to do illegal things and since it was hosted in an american server, they had it removed. Free speech my ass eh?

I have no idea how they got a hold of it anyway. I guess it ended up in altavista at the time or maybe the geocities people peeked at it and reported it. Yes, it was in geocities, simply because at the time, it was a small hosting site that didn't put much between you and hosting a file, that changed pretty quickly.

[Sergius]

About the "gone gold" thing, I think it's a hold-over from the old vinyl days. It seems that the first "master" copy they make is made out of gold because it retains the data better over many replays (copies) or whatever. Like how they filled that Voyager probe with gold records. There's a big chance also that I'm pulling this info out of my ass.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

We need to sell shirts that say "NO DRM BASTARDS". At cost I should think.

The FBI is so worried about someone telling you how to crack a free debugger, but they're happy to see a company installing malware on your computer. Something tells me it has more to do with how much money a criminal has than what he actually does. We're just regular people, so we're the most vulnerable to oppression.

[Soulwynd]

And I'm quite fond of the one below:


http://torrentfreak.com/anti-drm-t-shirt-designs-vote-now/
http://kaysha.com/kaysha/2008/08/11/t-shirt-drm-free-bring-back-the-tape/
http://www.zazzle.com/drm_doesn_t_restrict_me_shirt-235780255416720393?gl=snapstream

Having an A-DRM t-shirt almost beats having a "The Dude" t-shirt.


Almost.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

[img=http://torrentfreak.com/images/anti-drm14.jpg[/img]

I don't get this one?
I assume it has something to do with hex editing, but what does it say in the arm on the right, to the right and above "DRM"?

[penguinofhonor]

I don't get this one?
I assume it has something to do with hex editing, but what does it say in the arm on the right, to the right and above "DRM"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy

[Soulwynd]

It's the encryption key to AACS.

It says "AACS DRM GAMEOVER"