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[Duke 2.0]

 Ah, memories. I really wanted to connect that grotto to everybody else's rooms. Even a few days ago I thought of a fishing game that would be nifty.

 We must find Dullard and make him get it back up!

[Hawkfrost]

 Ah, memories. I really wanted to connect that grotto to everybody else's rooms. Even a few days ago I thought of a fishing game that would be nifty.

 We must find Dullard and make him get it back up!

I agree.
I miss the MU*.
Dullard just vanished, with no warning or anything, I wonder what happened to him.

[Kaelem Gaen]

CURSES! And I just found out about this now.   I bet them damn elves are behind it.  *Glares at their forests*  Anyone wanna throw a bonfire?
 
Anyways, sucks... wonder if anyone else will try and make their own version of it.

[mainiac]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but it just ocured to me might be cool to make a MU* modeling a very disfunctional fortress instead of one where people co-operate.  Dwarven interactions are, to put not too fine a point on it, insane and it might be cool to go that route.  Everyone would be clawing at each other to try to ascend to the top of the pack and become mayor/treasurer/dungeon master (DM might not be an immigrant position in the MU*) etc. where upon they would mercilessly exploit their position to force others to do their ends (insane mandates much?) while at the same time trying to keep down the proletariot revolt.  Those who are successful enough at staying at the top can be considered to have "won" the rat race and would be given noble rank from which they can look down upon the peasant rabble and can now happily feud and backstab with other nobles, giving fresh blood a shot at competing for the lower rank.

[Tahin]

Wow. I had nearly forgotten about this...

I wonder what happened to LD. If anyone out there with a decent connection and a spare computer is willing to host something, I'm more than happy to work as a builder or moderator or whatever. I'd love to see something like this.

I'd set something up myself, but my connection is terrible and goes down all the time. I do have a few spare computers, and it might be fast enough to handle a small number of connections with minimal lag... Hm.

[qwertyuiopas]

He is still around(last post late december, last active yesterday)

[PTTG??]

Yeah, I'm for bringing this back, perhaps with some of Tahin's techno-magic engine. Or any kind of visualization, frankly.

Come to think of it, I belive we had an idea for giving each room a text description and a DF-style map. That would solve the argument over how long it should take to carve a room, too, as it would be simple enough to say it takes x minutes per square in the map.

[Duke 2.0]

 No need to worry about traffic and lag. The most we ever had at once was six people online at the same time.

 I dunno, custom descriptions had their charm. Not to mention it was annoying as hell to type the quality modifiers every time you types an item. It would be best if it was formatted so you don't need to add the - on each side of the tiem name.

 Also, LD was working on a custom system for most DF things like combat and crafting.

 

[qwertyuiopas]

I managed to write actual network code(!)  that would draw a 25x80 grid of #s to telnet.

[Strife26]

Let's do this!

[Tahin]

I really don't think a MUD/Roguelike would work terribly well.

What if we tried a different system? Dead Souls mudlib (http://dead-souls.sourceforge.net/) is pretty good, uses a C-like scripting language, and has a prebuilt combat system that's rather nice and detailed.

Oh, and it has some crazy detail. There's even scripts for diseases. Giving myself a cold when I was playing around with it was just eerie.

Also worth noting is that pretty much everything is softcoded, so there's none of the awkward commands like "+look" to get around the hardcoded commands of the same name. If you want the look command to do something else, you simply open up the appropriate file and change it.


EDIT:

Come to think of it, I belive we had an idea for giving each room a text description and a DF-style map. That would solve the argument over how long it should take to carve a room, too, as it would be simple enough to say it takes x minutes per square in the map.

Wait, what? How does that simplify it at all? How long should it take per tile, then?

[Duke 2.0]

 Of course, what system we use depends on how easily we can make custom commands. Digging our own rooms, crafting, etc.

 Although on looking at it, it does seem useful. Lets see.

[Tahin]

Well, the only issue with LP-muds (That system I posted above falls under this category) is that items are handled in an object/instance fashion. You create a new file for each unique object you want, and simply spawn a copy of them. If we wanted truly customizable craftable objects, I'd have to find a way around this. It's possible that I could find a way to have object "classes" which the instances of could then store their individual quality and description, but I'm not sure if that's possible.

But I do really love that system. I think my favorite thing I ran into while playing around with it was when I "killed" an NPC with a wizard command, and his weapons and armor fell to the floor, rather than just disappearing along with his body.

Edit: All right, I take back everything I've said, except that this mudlib is fucking amazing.
It appears to store a "template" of the object as a file, but each individual instance of an object is stored separately as its own object. I may be way off with this, though, as I haven't really spent that much time digging around.

So, is anyone with extensive experience with LP-muds going to step forward?

[Mephisto]

If you guys are still looking for a system, how about taking a look at CoffeeMud? Setting up a server is super easy. From what I recall (which is from at least three years ago; lots of updates have happened since then), players could create rooms and all that good stuff. I believe there may have been a crafting system, too.

Admin-types can login through a web browser and modify all aspects of the game, including creating new rooms and setting up a map.

[Tahin]

Hm. That looks interesting, but it might be a bit complicated for what I'd like to do.

Does anyone here actually have some decent experience with a codebase?

I wish LD was still interested... Heh.