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[Hishan]

added Z levels and colour visualization

Could you explain this?

Meaningmaking metal walls look metal, and wood walls look wood etc.

[Tamren]

Added Z levels means the ability to add more Z levels to a fortress over the default 31. Currently all structures are limited to 15 levels tall, unless the terrain is tall to begin with.

My projected starship fortress would need in the region of 140.

[Draco18s]

My projected starship fortress would need in the region of 140.

I believe that qualifies as a:
HOLY F*CK!
Or maybe a:
JESUS CHRIST!

[Tamren]

Neither. Its MADNESS! 

According to my blueprint, the completed fortress would be 570 tiles long, 386 tiles wide (or 11.9 X 8.1 map tiles) and 79 levels high. Since I want to suspend it off the ground far into the air to imitate a hovering starship, that adds at least another 60 levels, including the default 15 layers of rock and soil.

[Earthquake Damage]

Maximum site size is 480x480 tiles, IIRC.

[Tamren]

Not even close, its 768. Each map tile is 48X48 fortress tiles. That means a 16x16 map has 12288 tiles per level.

[Earthquake Damage]

D'oh!  I was thinking of the old 2D map size.

[Mithaldu]

Tamren: This has nothing to do with changing dwarf fortress. This is about 3Dwarf.

Aside from that, work is progressing. I've cooked up a prototype viewer so i can directly fiddle around with stuff and will soon be improving the extraction routines.

[RickiusMaximus]

Do you need anymore help?

I would love to see a new version of 3Dwarf! It's sooooo preetty...

I had noticed a few glitches with the way ramps were shown, notibly that a single row of ramps displays as a row of square pyramids. I think it would be better if it showed up as a toblerone shape, so we can do sloping roofs better...

[Mithaldu]

Actually, there is one thing people could still help with: Textures.
Right now the texture variation is pretty low and if people would make 256x256 textures matching the tile types in Toady's earlier post, that would help things out quite a bit.

[Tamren]

Tamren: This has nothing to do with changing dwarf fortress. This is about 3Dwarf.

And talking about how we could build awesome things with DF then use 3dwarf to view them is offtopic how? Were going to have to change 3dwarf to keep up with a changing dwarf fortress anyway. And its already somewhat behind in the colour department.

Do you think it would be possible to have transparent or at least translucent clear blocks to represent windows? It would be neat if we could make them glow as well, to simulate lights.

[Mithaldu]

Alright, the next step is done. As i mentioned before, i'm working on a viewer with which i can directly fiddle around, and it's now at a key point. As of now, i have a piece of code which pretty much emulates the visualize button ingame, only that it runs alongside in its own window and allows me to change how it displays stuff.

I've made a little demonstration here: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v15926805CxaYtejA
If you click on the download link you can also download the full-size original video. Also note that i was a bit quiet and you may need to turn your sound up.

As usual, you can download the source via SVN from googlecode here: http://code.google.com/p/dwarvis/source/browse/trunk/lifevis

As it's getting late now, i'll delay assembling a package for now and maybe do that tomorrow if people are interested.

Also keep in mind that this is not a competitor to 3Dwarf and only meant as a tool to help me make better use of Toady's data.

[Janus]

Nice!

[Dadamh]

I agree with the guy with the spathi cypher.  Anyway, that video is a neat proof of concept.  Shows that at least some amount of realtime 3d viewer is somewhat possible, if a long way from complete.

[Mithaldu]

I agree with the guy with the spathi cypher.

Huh?

Anyway, that video is a neat proof of concept.

Haha, it's a lot more than that. Right now it's mostly a question of fleshing it out. (Currently working on a toolchain to convert Wavefront objects to perl code, since making ramps by hand is fucking tedious.)