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[Scruga]

i'm playing in a map with an aquafier and i need mechanisms. i thought i could make them from stone blocks, which i bought from merchants. but it didn't work. any ideas how to get to the precious stone?
or how to just get mechanisms directly

[Lidhuin]

I think the dwarf caravan will trade you raw stone if you ask for it. I certainly remember seeing platinum nuggets and that's definitely raw.

[Scruga]

i'll take another look next time the caravan arrives.

[Hyndis]

You can also make mechanisms out of ore if you set ore to be usable through the stocks menu. By default ore is reserved only for smelting.

[Skanky]

You could always make exploratory holes in the aquifer level and with a bit of luck find a patch of orthoclase or similar. Then dig into that and extract your precious, precious stone.

Or, you know, just keep digging down as that breaches 1-level aquifers.

[grelphy]

Stupid suggestion: train all your dwarves in mechanics and hope for a mood. =P

That could work, as moody dwarves ignore material requirements (hence wood, metal, bone, etc. mechanisms) but you'd have to get your pop up enough to enable moods and there's no guarantee the moody dwarves wouldn't all just want stone. Probably best to trade for it. Prepared meals have a remarkably high value if you're looking for non-stone based trade goods.

[Troas]

If you have a brook you can mine its top layer for stone

[Skanky]

Stupid suggestion: train all your dwarves in mechanics and hope for a mood. =P

Without stone, how?

[Jing]

You can also make mechanisms out of ore if you set ore to be usable through the stocks menu. By default ore is reserved only for smelting.

For the op: Mechanisms are made from rocks... they aren't made from stone Blocks (which are themselves also made from rocks), so therein lies your problem.

Hyndis: It's funny that I hadn't considered this before, but it makes a good work around for "Bauxite is the only magma proof stone"... assuming that mechanisms made from iron and nickel (I think) ores are also magma proof (should be though...).

[Dogman]

Hyndis: It's funny that I hadn't considered this before, but it makes a good work around for "Bauxite is the only magma proof stone"... assuming that mechanisms made from iron and nickel (I think) ores are also magma proof (should be though...).

Nope. In my last fort I dug a magma channel through a patch of Magnetite. The raw ore chunks melted like everything else.

[Jing]

Hyndis: It's funny that I hadn't considered this before, but it makes a good work around for "Bauxite is the only magma proof stone"... assuming that mechanisms made from iron and nickel (I think) ores are also magma proof (should be though...).

Nope. In my last fort I dug a magma channel through a patch of Magnetite. The raw ore chunks melted like everything else.

Well, yes... since the ore can be smelted and all I guess... but it may be different in a finished product like a mechanism (since iron flood gates and iron bars, etc. are magma proof)

[Micro102]

i thought aquifires were just large amount water collected naturally....how do they keep you form mining stone?

[Tuv]

Aquifers cover an entire zone, and spew infinite water, as well as absorb infinite water. Essentially a layer of never-ending watery doom.

[Micro102]

so? it cant block all the levels. there must be stone to mine.

[userpay]

Just curious but Bauxite is only found out of magma areas so you would have to import it right?