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[Shades]

I was under the impression in the last version that there was a warning when you where digging below an aquifer (although I can't recall for certain if this is true).

However just now I managed to dig a staircase up into an aquifer area which then canceled the digging around it. I think the correct response should have been similar to when you dig under a pool?

I hope I can save my fort :/ those stairs are the highest point....

[Draco18s]

There never has--to my knowledge--been any such warning.

[Alenth Eneil]

I always found it weird that there is no way to view what is acting as the ceiling to your tunnels.

[Shades]

There never has--to my knowledge--been any such warning.

If you dig under a pool it tells you it's wet (or hot for magma) I assumed it would be the same for an aquifer.

[Draco18s]

There never has--to my knowledge--been any such warning.

If you dig under a pool it tells you it's wet (or hot for magma) I assumed it would be the same for an aquifer.

Nope!  Would be nice though.

[muwahahaha]

I always found it weird that there is no way to view what is acting as the ceiling to your tunnels.

I've always figured it to be so that each 'square' is acutally a cube (rectangular prism?) missing the bottom face e.g:

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So that what happens is you are able to see what the level below is made of since you don't have that floor (the level below IS the floor, sort of) while if you looked up you would see the top face of your current box, not the bottom of the level above e.g:

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If you were in the bottom left, for example, you would be able to tell what the squares below and next to you were since below is the top of another, and the sides are part of you're box, whereas if you look up, you wont see what type of rock the level above is, since your roof is in the way

[Draco18s]

Yet you can't see what's under you without removing the floor.

[ein Syndication]

Because you also remove the floor below's ceiling.

[Draco18s]

Because you also remove the floor below's ceiling.

...be consistent.  Does a tile's CEILING match the tile, or does the FLOOR match the tile?  The floor and the ceiling are the same thing.

[Shades]

As the floor is the same material as a block on that level (and not the one below) it's clear that there is a floor and not a ceiling on each square.

[Granite26]

And yet if you build a wall, the room above gets a floor that is the material as the wall below.


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Anyway, I also have issues with it not being *known* that a square will be 'damp' even if you can't see it.  (AKA tunneling under a pond is hard to do, because every revealed square is *discovered* to be damp.)

[ein Syndication]

The ceiling matches the tile AND the floor matches the tile. I wouldn't expect the dwarves to dig exactly above or below the next layer. Block wall only creates a floor above if there was already a hole, think of it as a dip that's too small to affect movement. Though I as well would expect the ground below an aquifer to be wet if the ground below a pond is also wet. In the same way, I'd expect a room or hall of smoothed stone to easily collapse under the weight of a dwarf, not to mention a pile of infinite animals, if it was as thin as "no ceiling, only floor" sounds to me.

These are all things I myself assume, don't think Toady's given us his side. I could be wrong, but all of this makes sense to me.

[Draco18s]

And yet if you build a wall, the room above gets a floor that is the material as the wall below.

Ah, but if it didn't you'd have "empty space" above the wall, ah la Fortifications.