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Tormy

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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1380 on: January 05, 2009, 06:12:21 pm »

Latest dev notes highlight: a dwarf with boiling gold blood. I really can't wait to see how THAT turns out!

That experiment won't end well [I am thinking about the poor dwarf's lifespan to be more specific] I guess... ;D
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« Reply #1381 on: January 05, 2009, 06:45:04 pm »

Latest dev notes highlight: a dwarf with boiling gold blood. I really can't wait to see how THAT turns out!

That experiment won't end well [I am thinking about the poor dwarf's lifespan to be more specific] I guess... ;D
Any experiment designed to kill a dwarf that successfully kills a dwarf is a successful experiment, that ended well, regardless of any other unfortunate side effects.
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« Reply #1382 on: January 05, 2009, 06:46:17 pm »

Perhaps later... what blood (And other organs while we are at it) is made out of will actually impact the creature far more significantly then it currently does.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1383 on: January 05, 2009, 07:16:15 pm »

Question for Toady: Will any of these body changes (other then poisons) have any effect on Vermin? Or are they going to stay pretty much unchanged?

Another way of phrasing that is: Will vermin get more specific body definitions with this release, or are they going to stay very simplistic? Right now the difference between a bluejay and a fire snake is pretty minimal.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1384 on: January 05, 2009, 08:06:55 pm »

Question for Toady: Will any of these body changes (other then poisons) have any effect on Vermin? Or are they going to stay pretty much unchanged?

Another way of phrasing that is: Will vermin get more specific body definitions with this release, or are they going to stay very simplistic? Right now the difference between a bluejay and a fire snake is pretty minimal.
It's been mentioned that he wants to allow for more complex vermin bodies, but doesn't want to get to the point of having to track wounds for individual vermin (IE, vermin remain simple things without individual parts that can be wounded, but they do get different properties depending on their construction - so an Iron Rat might be immune to the weak attacks from a kitten, for example, but it would still insta-gib from an attack that could hurt it).

Standard "If I understood it correctly" disclaimer.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1385 on: January 06, 2009, 01:16:10 am »

Once the molten or gaseous golden blood leaves the bloodstream, will it revert into solid gold? Gold tends to revert to a solid state in room temperature, if I remember my chemistry right.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1386 on: January 06, 2009, 02:58:06 am »

Gaseous gold is more likely to become a fine golden powder than solid gold - but yeah, since a "powder" is just a large amount of tiny solid gold specks, you can count it as a solid.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1387 on: January 06, 2009, 04:01:13 am »

Gaseous gold is more likely to become a fine golden powder than solid gold - but yeah, since a "powder" is just a large amount of tiny solid gold specks, you can count it as a solid.

Interestingly powders are treated as a special case of solids in the new material raws.  Check out the entry for bone.
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« Reply #1388 on: January 06, 2009, 06:22:53 am »

Wow. So the next version will contain a luxury creature that, during certain expensive parties, will be detonated to shower the room with gold?
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1389 on: January 06, 2009, 07:34:12 am »

Pinata?

Actually, if the dwarves could be made to vomit gold...
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1390 on: January 06, 2009, 09:18:12 am »

Wow. So the next version will contain a luxury creature that, during certain expensive parties, will be detonated to shower the room with gold?

Sounds like a way to get a bunch of golden dwarven statues.
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« Reply #1391 on: January 06, 2009, 09:26:53 am »

Dammit Toady you silly man! It's ridiculous enough that beings have gold in a constant liquid state that functions as their circulatory system! Now once that liquid gold is violently released, instead of returning to its solid state as nature intended (which you insist is an error that needs to be rectified), it further heats into gas?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU :P
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1392 on: January 06, 2009, 09:47:09 am »

Dammit Toady you silly man! It's ridiculous enough that beings have gold in a constant liquid state that functions as their circulatory system! Now once that liquid gold is violently released, instead of returning to its solid state as nature intended (which you insist is an error that needs to be rectified), it further heats into gas?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU :P
One would assume the transfer to a solid state isn't instantaneous.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1393 on: January 06, 2009, 09:50:10 am »

Dammit Toady you silly man! It's ridiculous enough that beings have gold in a constant liquid state that functions as their circulatory system! Now once that liquid gold is violently released, instead of returning to its solid state as nature intended (which you insist is an error that needs to be rectified), it further heats into gas?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU :P

I might be misreading you, but the gold blood isn't boiling into gas, it's already a gas -- blood doesn't even have to be a liquid anymore.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #1394 on: January 06, 2009, 11:27:45 am »

Well In the bloodstream there is an certain preasure from the surrounding Material and the pumping pressure of the heart (That must be really storng and damn huge). If i remeber my Physics classes some years ago correct it is fact that with higher preasure the boilingpoint of an Material is also higher. The normal bodytemp of our dwarf would be then 2856 °C! I think this dwarf was half Magmamen!

Another idea is that the gold in the blood of the dwarf replaces the normal Haemoglobin but does this as molecule with very instable Bonds. Now exposed to an nonbenefital milieu it comes to Explosiv and exothermal reactions.

I know that dont makes much sense but heck we have Magmamen and Spirits of fire!
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