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Author Topic: The NEW Future of the Fortress  (Read 353329 times)

LumenPlacidum

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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #705 on: December 03, 2008, 09:55:06 pm »

I wonder how many different castes will be permitted for a single race...
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #706 on: December 03, 2008, 10:00:42 pm »

I wonder how many different castes will be permitted for a single race...

As many as you want, within reason.  They are allocated as it loads them in from the raws.  You'll probably experience weird slowdowns or memory problems if you add thousands of them, but I don't think you'll blow out any variables until you get around 32000, unless the raw loader can't handle files that are long.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #707 on: December 03, 2008, 10:06:46 pm »

So as I understand it we could make Hobbits, with hair growing from their feet?
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #708 on: December 03, 2008, 10:38:41 pm »

Um, with polymorphism and castes, you'd be able to make your hobbits into distinct subraces which all have slightly different proportions but are still capable of interbreeding due to being of the same species, I think.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #709 on: December 03, 2008, 10:50:06 pm »

Neat this way i can finaly make an querx, that is an Subrace of dwarf from german folklore. they are an bit smaller then dwarfes and have blue skin - they arent related to the smurfs.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #710 on: December 04, 2008, 02:10:54 am »

Also, the devlog suggests that different states of the same creature type will now use different symbols.  I sense confusion coming.

This was mainly for the Antman...  Queen type stuff, where I might use a capital A or something.

Are the antmen going to be a major focus of the underground revisions?  Like crazy twisting burrows and stuff?
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #711 on: December 04, 2008, 05:17:24 am »

I wonder how inter-caste breeding will work.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #712 on: December 04, 2008, 05:53:23 am »

I wonder how inter-caste breeding will work.

0_o *Twitch*
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #713 on: December 04, 2008, 06:29:08 am »

Also, the devlog suggests that different states of the same creature type will now use different symbols.  I sense confusion coming.

Worse than when you didn't know whether the incoming gray 'E' was an elf or an elephant?

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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #714 on: December 04, 2008, 07:02:06 am »

Also, the devlog suggests that different states of the same creature type will now use different symbols.  I sense confusion coming.

This was mainly for the Antman...  Queen type stuff, where I might use a capital A or something.


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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #715 on: December 04, 2008, 07:02:26 am »

Elfephant. Giant stomping cannibalous machine of death.

But yeah, it might create confusion. All the more incentive to expand the tilesets.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #716 on: December 04, 2008, 10:27:13 am »

I wonder how many different castes will be permitted for a single race...

As many as you want, within reason.  They are allocated as it loads them in from the raws.  You'll probably experience weird slowdowns or memory problems if you add thousands of them, but I don't think you'll blow out any variables until you get around 32000, unless the raw loader can't handle files that are long.

Whoa this is pretty awesome. Next version: modders paradise indeed.  :D
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #717 on: December 04, 2008, 10:32:39 am »

I suddenly smell a trope mod... like, Our Elves Are Different...
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #718 on: December 04, 2008, 10:36:39 am »

Quote from: Devlog
Color variations and changes over time are done (for any tissue layer, from skin or muscle to the stomach to eyebrows or claws), and I've defined a new colored pattern definition for things like stripes and mottled patterns that can have more than one color at a time. So you could have your borgle's borgle fade from either their starting blue or starting red into a purple and green striped pattern gradually as they age, or something. Appearance modifier change rates are also done, so unit hair/nails can grow, or you could have your borgle's borgle grow thicker from age 10 years to age 15 years (it still can't be borgly to any degree). It only supports one start/end time at this point for growth rates, but today's changes are enough to go from having no facial hair for a human male at birth to having a beard start to grow after some years to having the beard gray slowly after a certain age is reached (with the color change being defined as a change at the root of more and more hairs rather than a fading of the color all around, as you might want for some other color changes). The length/color changes will matter for the descriptive paragraphs (which are up roughly after wounds in the countdown), and there can be all sorts of applications later on, from cultural entity rules to wrestling effects.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #719 on: December 04, 2008, 10:41:28 am »


 Damn.

 How are we supposed to mod in proper borgles? We must be able to show how borgly they are!

 But all kidding aside, wow that is amazing.
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