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Dareon Clearwater

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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #645 on: November 25, 2008, 09:57:23 am »

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Hmm.  With edible organs, would an adventurer with blood drain gain nutrition from a successful bite attack?  How does blood drain work for the drainer in the current version, anyway?

Edit: Also, if blood was edible (I think it actually is now, not sure.  Either it or vomit is.  One's potable, one's edible, probably.  Ick.), and an entity was defined as okay drinking it, that entity's forts could survive at blood rivers.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #646 on: November 25, 2008, 10:08:32 am »

Edit: Also, if blood was edible (I think it actually is now, not sure.  Either it or vomit is.  One's potable, one's edible, probably.  Ick.), and an entity was defined as okay drinking it, that entity's forts could survive at blood rivers.

You can drink blood / eat vomit, but only if dehydrated/starving.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #647 on: November 25, 2008, 11:22:42 am »

Blood can be edible.  I've eaten it before (both duck and pig blood) - it was in partially coagulated cubes, kind of like jello.  It's actually really good, but I'm guessing it needs preparation.

There's also blood sausage.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #648 on: November 25, 2008, 11:24:52 am »

Blood can be edible.  I've eaten it before (both duck and pig blood) - it was in partially coagulated cubes, kind of like jello.  It's actually really good, but I'm guessing it needs preparation.

There's also blood sausage.

Eeewwww.. :o
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #649 on: November 25, 2008, 11:25:12 am »

Blood can be edible.  I've eaten it before (both duck and pig blood) - it was in partially coagulated cubes, kind of like jello.  It's actually really good, but I'm guessing it needs preparation.

There's also blood sausage.
Don't forget a really nice rice covering is chicken blood + other spices.

 But be warned: Blood often gives food a taste that can only be called iron-tasting. And by often I mean every time.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #650 on: November 25, 2008, 11:26:36 am »

Not that you should be able to drink blood and have it relieve thirst.  The saltiness of blood makes you even more thirsty afterward.  One might say that plasma is like 9/10 water or something, and blood is a little more than half plasma, meaning you get 9 parts water for about 20 parts blood.  But, keep in mind that seawater is like 96% water, and that's not good enough.  Urine would actually be a much better source of hydration than blood for quite a few iterations through your system before the urea and other wastes got too concentrated.

Dried or partially dried blood could be a reasonable food, as people describe above.

Vomit, however, is really just bile, a little acid, and partially-digested food.  No reason why you shouldn't be able to re-consume it.

The ethics for civs eating organs shouldn't be specified, but should be part of the randomness in world-gen.  This tribe of elves believes that a person's soul is passed through their kidneys.  And, it would be too cruel to allow the soul to wander aimlessly outside of a body, so it's important to eat the kidneys of all creatures, so as to not commit the crime of abandoning them in death.

It seems like this would be a good time to make it so that the different levels of prepared meals take, rather than three different items, some amount of SIZE of food.  Each simple meal would be say 1/100 the SIZE of a dwarf (since toady said that the scale is about a factor of a thousand now, that would be 6*1000/100 = 60 size units.  Perhaps the next one would be 1/80 the SIZE of a dwarf, or 75 size units, and the lavish meal would be 90 units.  That's per food item.  This way, the very small creatures (like kittens), would be a reasonable snack, but not a good feast.  One kitten would certainly not feed three dwarves for months.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #651 on: November 25, 2008, 11:28:25 am »

Blood can be edible.  I've eaten it before (both duck and pig blood) - it was in partially coagulated cubes, kind of like jello.  It's actually really good, but I'm guessing it needs preparation.

There's also blood sausage.
Don't forget a really nice rice covering is chicken blood + other spices.

 But be warned: Blood often gives food a taste that can only be called iron-tasting. And by often I mean every time.

You blood eater people must be sick. Seriously. I know what you mean on iron-tasting, I've also licked my cutted finger in the past. It tasted horrible.  :-X
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #652 on: November 25, 2008, 11:44:01 am »

Many countries have blood-based foodstuff. Blood sausages have already been mentioned; England and Sweden has Black Pudding; Denmark and Sweden has Black Soup made from goose blood and wine; the Masai people in Africa let blood from their cattle and drink it mixed with milk ("blood tea"), etc etc.

Blood is very nutritious, and not really dehydrating. However, human metabolism cannot process it "raw" (drink more than a few tablespoons and you'll vomit), but somewhat cooked it is an excellent nutrient.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #653 on: November 25, 2008, 11:47:31 am »


 Idea:
 Creature with a weak metal outer shell. Perhaps made of Bauxite?
 Innards of magma.

 Any and all bloodstains would result in burnanation. Awesome!
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #654 on: November 25, 2008, 12:04:58 pm »

We have "blood candy" here, called "Hematogen". :) It tastes nice for something made of blood.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #655 on: November 25, 2008, 12:13:34 pm »

Some cultures even have boozes brewed from blood. But let us be realistic i dont think toady is implementing this soon if he wants implement it (i mean only the bloodcooking). 
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #656 on: November 25, 2008, 03:54:27 pm »

There's also blood sausage.

Eeewwww.. :o

Hehe, it actually looks even worse than it sounds:
http://i34.tinypic.com/2qdd5wo.jpg

..but tastes quite good with lingonberry (red stuff in picture).
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #657 on: November 25, 2008, 03:59:41 pm »

I've never had any kind of blood sausage but I'd definitely try it.  Considering the nature of all sausage, it can't be that bad.
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #658 on: November 25, 2008, 04:10:53 pm »

There's also blood sausage.

Eeewwww.. :o

Hehe, it actually looks even worse than it sounds:
http://i34.tinypic.com/2qdd5wo.jpg

..but tastes quite good with lingonberry (red stuff in picture).


Uh...that looks disgusting indeed.  :-X I guess I won't change from fried chicken.  ;D
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Re: The NEW Future of the Fortress
« Reply #659 on: November 25, 2008, 04:11:44 pm »

There's also blood sausage.

Eeewwww.. :o

Hehe, it actually looks even worse than it sounds:
http://i34.tinypic.com/2qdd5wo.jpg

..but tastes quite good with lingonberry (red stuff in picture).

Even with a hard-wired nausea effect from blood, I have to try this.  It sounds quite tasty.
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