I don't agree. I can think of two things said in this thread that are completely full of crap:
"That argument is the DF equivalent of saying "because God made it that way".
Like Syreal said. Think about it, when people talk about DF, how long do they spend talking about their architecture or their trading or all those other peacenik stuff in comparison to how awesome so and so fighter killed 200 batmen who swarmed up from the chasm, attacking a lone hammerdwarf on a bridge?
It's not peace that compels fun, unfortunate or not. It's conflict. We need more conflict."
Please don't tell people the game has to be changed to fit your expectation of what it should be. Sieges were a pain. Wars were a pain. I want to be able to wander around in adventure mode and kill megabeasts, and explore. I don't *want* what you want so for me the game isn't broken.
That could be just a disagreement in perspective, but you seem to think that fufilling your personal view and wants -- or the views and wants of the people who "love adventure mode" -- is more important than the game creator fixing up the things he needs to do.
Right now we have people bitching about -
1. Graphics
2. Stupid bugs like mandates being broken by caravans leaving with items they brought
3. Interface things (levers notes, stacks)
4. Added Dwarf Fortress mode features
And so on. Instead of moving forward on any of those, you want to
1. Suggest that tearing down part of the "fixed functionality" in the process of creating a more "fluid functionality" is wrong and that we should go back to what the "2-d version offered with some of the upgrades as far as adventuring goes". Takes time away from the more important things to a much larger fraction of the community, so that's illogical.
2. Suggest that the customers (the players) should be treated like shareholders -- in which case there is a much bigger payoff in fixing up the dwarf fortress aspects , the presentation arc, and so forth than on doing what you want -- not enough people are upset about it. Again, your position is illogical
3. Ask for why these things were removed -- and then when you're told they've been removed because the game is in an alpha state and that Toady is changing and removing things and adding things all the time and that you can't assume that just because it got torn out now it won't be fixed soon, you blow up and say that's like the government throwing people in gulags. Yay, drama bomb.
I was originally attracted to register at this forum after lurking a long time due to the maturity level of many of the posters. But you're whining, you're basically upset because you don't have what you think is important even at the cost of moving the whole game forward, and you're being rude. Anu and Sergius were pretty clear cut, but I'll be blunter and less polite:
STFU. It will get fixed and altered when more important things get fixed, like tons of other things that need to get fixed that are just as irritating to other people.
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