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kelderan

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Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« on: July 15, 2008, 11:22:43 pm »
So I'm playing the new version in adventure mode and enjoying the fact that for whatever reason it stopped at year 200 but hating the fact there are no quests. I was looking around for some goblins to go to war with but hadn't attacked any when I came to a tower populated soley by Humans, Some prisoners, most not. Even got a few amazing spearmen to join me as they seem not to like living at the tower (helped against the only quest I found thus far, a cyclops one. So I head back to try and see if there are any goblins to kill or spearmen to recruit when there hanging out in the upper tower is a demon. I thought... well there goes that hero... but then I noticed he wasn't attacking. Not only that but he would talk to me. No family to speak of. The castle he was in was built by a witch in year 1!!!! AND he has a quest for me. More as I get it. What fun!
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 11:26:21 pm »
Quote from: kelderan on July 15, 2008, 11:22:43 pm
So I'm playing the new version in adventure mode and enjoying the fact that for whatever reason it stopped at year 200 but hating the fact there are no quests. I was looking around for some goblins to go to war with but hadn't attacked any when I came to a tower populated soley by Humans, Some prisoners, most not. Even got a few amazing spearmen to join me as they seem not to like living at the tower (helped against the only quest I found thus far, a cyclops one. So I head back to try and see if there are any goblins to kill or spearmen to recruit when there hanging out in the upper tower is a demon. I thought... well there goes that hero... but then I noticed he wasn't attacking. Not only that but he would talk to me. No family to speak of. The castle he was in was built by a witch in year 1!!!! AND he has a quest for me. More as I get it. What fun!

Well, the civ you started in apparently isn't at war with the goblins, so they won't attack you. Also, the world probably stopped at 200 because the set amount of megabeasts were killed. 20% of megabeasts is a little low, so you don't get many quests.
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kelderan

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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 11:50:01 pm »
Kinda demands we use perimeters now then? Anyhow turns out the quest was to kill a cougar... and now my demon friend ran away D=
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 01:11:36 am »
I've noticed a distinct drop in the number of quests too.

If I remember correctly, it used to be in the previous version that even though civilizations didn't go to war, they would still send you to take out goblins and kobolds. Now when I go to a place that has a long history of animosity with the goblins, I get the "Ah.. well we are quite untroubled here" schpeel.

On the other hand if a war is in-progress when the world-gen ends, then I get quests to take out just about every citizen of the other side.

And I have yet to get a quest to take out something like an Ogre.
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 01:14:15 am »
Ogres are 'animals'. Theres a very tiny chance of someone in worldgen being killed/maimed by one in worldgen unless you set it so that theres evil biomes everywhere.
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 11:32:52 am »
Oh, they weren't quest objects before? I must have been thinking of Giants then.
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 03:52:35 pm »
^^
cyclopses?
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 05:50:25 pm »
Quote from: tp12 on July 16, 2008, 03:52:35 pm
^^
cyclopses?
Could have been both. Or Ettins, maybe. I think it was Ettins mainly.

I think a temporary solution would be to 'retroactively' generate new megabeasts if the population grows too thin. Meaning that although the entity would have been created in the year 924, it would have a listed born date of much earlier. The obvious problem with this is then the beast has no history.

Alternatively perhaps somehow a certain % of megabeasts and semimegabeasts could be "rigged" for the duration of worldgen, so that they survive to the start of the new era. Obviously these would have to be kept in check to prevent a Rampage scenario where the monsters jump up and down on the various orange states and turn them black... :P
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Re: Fireside chat with a demon (39)
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 01:22:33 am »
Quote from: kelderan on July 15, 2008, 11:22:43 pm
... when there hanging out in the upper tower is a demon. I thought... well there goes that hero... but then I noticed he wasn't attacking. Not only that but he would talk to me. No family to speak of. The castle he was in was built by a witch in year 1!!!! AND he has a quest for me. More as I get it. What fun!

Yes! To my great surprise, I also had a chat with a demon, at the top of a dark tower and she had a quest for me. I even recruited a goblin or two into my party...

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