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[shadow_archmagi]

So, aside from the fancy world-gen legends (which are AWESOME) what can I actually expect to see differently in my fortress? What should I know so that I don't look like an idiot for being used to 38c?

[MoonCabbage]

Toady already stated you probably wont see many if any gameplay changes in Fortress mode with this release. That said the world gen got a number of overhauls to make the world inhabited with rich characters and places full of history to discover.

Adventure mode also received more completion with the implementation of more varied quests somewhat and with the new world gen a more believable world to explore.

This release was a bit more build-up to the next release which will hopefully include giving the player the ability to send out armies and for army battles to happen as we play the game.

[Gantolandon]

• improved constructions (you can build multiple walls, floors, etc at once)
• mass dumping/melting
• dwarves will gain an unhappy thought from eating the same food all the time

[shadow_archmagi]

• improved constructions (you can build multiple walls, floors, etc at once)

• mass dumping/melting

• dwarves will gain an unhappy thought from eating the same food all the time

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NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Now i'll have to buy TRADERFOOD

[Baro]

Mass dumping?!  How???

[1138]

[d]-(b)-something or other, you should see it from there. You can also [h]ide stuff (like rocks) which makes them still unforbidden (I think?), but not visible.

Edit: Heh, silly forum and its unorthodox formatting.

[Quiller]

• dwarves will gain an unhappy thought from eating the same food all the time

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NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Now i'll have to buy TRADERFOOD

Or you could, you know, have multiple sources of local food.  I'm guessing that this will affect fortresses that have nothing but plump helmet, but if you slaughter livestock, catch fish and grow a couple of edible crops there is probably nothing to worry about.  (Though hopefully they will vary their diet by choice, and not get upset because they always take food from the nearest barrel and it happens to contain donkey biscuits.)

[Haven]

I think the Dev already explained this one. Dwarves will travel pretty far to get new food, but probably not across the entire map. Likely across the entire fort, though. And the mass build designations and hiding are great for building your fort nice and clean.

[Ruttiger]

Wow, I was thinking a very short time ago that one thing the game absolutely needed was a way to set dump or melt designations in large numbers.  Half the time I'm giving orders it's to have stuff dumped or melted (goblin trash mostly).  Also, After having completed just one level of the above ground portion of my fortress, in 38c, I can say that being able to designate an entire wall or floor at once will make all the difference in the world. Not that I'm going to ditch my current efforts to upgrade.  Does anyone know if the update invalidates saves?

[shadow_archmagi]

• dwarves will gain an unhappy thought from eating the same food all the time

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NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Now i'll have to buy TRADERFOOD

Or you could, you know, have multiple sources of local food.  I'm guessing that this will affect fortresses that have nothing but plump helmet, but if you slaughter livestock, catch fish and grow a couple of edible crops there is probably nothing to worry about.  (Though hopefully they will vary their diet by choice, and not get upset because they always take food from the nearest barrel and it happens to contain donkey biscuits.)

So, what counts as variety? How many kinds do they need? Will they take Plump Helmet Biscuits, Wine Biscuits, Wine Roasts, and Plump Helmet roasts as being 4 kinds of food, or 2 kinds of food? Is 2 enough? Is 4 enough? Also, it is nice for finally being rewarded for  doing crop rotation and making everything.

[WingDing]

• dwarves will gain an unhappy thought from eating the same food all the time

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NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Now i'll have to buy TRADERFOOD

Or you could, you know, have multiple sources of local food.  I'm guessing that this will affect fortresses that have nothing but plump helmet, but if you slaughter livestock, catch fish and grow a couple of edible crops there is probably nothing to worry about.  (Though hopefully they will vary their diet by choice, and not get upset because they always take food from the nearest barrel and it happens to contain donkey biscuits.)

So, what counts as variety? How many kinds do they need? Will they take Plump Helmet Biscuits, Wine Biscuits, Wine Roasts, and Plump Helmet roasts as being 4 kinds of food, or 2 kinds of food? Is 2 enough? Is 4 enough? Also, it is nice for finally being rewarded for  doing crop rotation and making everything.

You could just embark with all the edible dwarven crops (sweet pods, cave wheat, quarry bushes) or get them from the dwarven caravan otherwise. There's more complicated logistics to them than plump helmets (cave wheat must be milled, quarry bushes must be processed at a farmer's workshop, and sweet pods can be processed or milled) but it's rewarding to see your efforts pay off and worth it in the long run.

Oh and pigtails, they can't be eaten but they can be brewed and can also be processed into fabric (with which you can make bags, and you'll need lots of bags.)

[Skanky]

Right now they'll treat the foods they are tired of as if they are much further away, but they won't walk across the fortress to get a new food if an old one is really close by in comparison.

edit:  To clarify -- for foods they like, distance is divided by 2 and then 30 is subtracted.  For foods they are tired of, distance is multiplied by 4 and 100 is added.  So they will walk quite a way for novel foods, but if they are standing on top of an old food and the nearest new food is more than 100 away, they'll go for the old one, unless they like the new food, in which case they'll go up to 260.  Of course, all distances are just 3D manhattan distances, since it can't afford to do a corridor-based distance calc here.

edit 2:  Also, cooked foods are counted provided they are all made out of one ingredient.  If a food is made out of two or more different item types, the system stores it as "generic prepared food" which adds a buffer against boredom for a few years.  So you can't escape by using plump helmet roasts, but if you have two food items you can escape by preparing them.  In general, three types of food (without cooking) is enough -- dwarves will get sick of a food if they have to eat it five times within a few years provided they have only eaten two types of food.  They don't mind eating something five times provided they have eaten two other types of food or a two+ different item prepared meal within the last few years.

[Nazush Ebsas]

how do cooks decide what ingredients they pick?

[Seizures]

how do cooks decide what ingredients they pick?

Whichever item closest, that is what they choose.

[VeryBadThingsDownHere]

There's always Wild Strawberries -- the above-ground version of the Plump Helmet.