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[Eita]

If I built supports that sink all the way down into the lava, is it plausible?

[Dorten]

Please, reformulate. I didn't undertand the idea.

[Moogie]

I think the basic question is, do supports melt in magma, and would they be able to hold up an entire tower if they were submerged in it?

In which case the answer to that is, I have no idea. xD I would suppose, if they don't act as "walls", they would need to be made from a magma-safe material. But that's a total guess.

[ShadowDragon8685]

Or just use wooden walls.

[Eita]

Those would burn in magma. Either that or Toady lost his head for a second.

[sneakey pete]

Firstly: no: the base of a magma pit or volcano is a special type of chasm: its not solid (magma pools are a different story)..

Secondly: its hard to 'lower' things in DF.

However, if you constructed your own personal hole, built the tower then pumped the magma in, it should work just fine.

[Metal Chao]

1: Constructed wood walls do not burn. Nothing made in the B>C menu burns or can be destroyed other than by deconstruction.
2: A single support can hold up the entire map.

[Seizures]

Secondly: its hard to 'lower' things in wurm.

Wurm? Wrong game my friend =P

To answer the question, it would be nearly impossible to do such a thing. The only thing that doesn't deconstruct when dropped is an unmined area. Buildings from the B>C menu would deconstruct, there has been tests before that proved this. And it was mentioned that the bottom of the magma vent acts as a chasm for items, so anything that did fall would go buh bye if the bottom tiles are magma flows.

The only real way I can think of doing this has been mentioned, to dig your own 'chasm' and fill it from a magma source, preferably one that replenishes.

Edit: actually it could work if you had an underground magma source that was only a few floors thick, and wasn't a magma flow. You would just have to collapse a pillar of unmined rock into the magma, and profit.

[Eita]

Secondly: its hard to 'lower' things in wurm.

Wurm? Wrong game my friend =P

To answer the question, it would be nearly impossible to do such a thing. The only thing that doesn't deconstruct when dropped is an unmined area. Buildings from the B>C menu would deconstruct, there has been tests before that proved this. And it was mentioned that the bottom of the magma vent acts as a chasm for items, so anything that did fall would go buh bye if the bottom tiles are magma flows.

The only real way I can think of doing this has been mentioned, to dig your own 'chasm' and fill it from a magma source, preferably one that replenishes.

Edit: actually it could work if you had an underground magma source that was only a few floors thick, and wasn't a magma flow. You would just have to collapse a pillar of unmined rock into the magma, and profit.

Know what, never mind. I'll just make a tower around the volcano. Awesome lava pit of death anyone?

[Andir]

I have a pyramid that's being constructed around a magma vent...

http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pyramidundergroundod7.png

I'm trying to figure out the best way to reshape the vent though.  I may have to start over in a different area and dig out the magma dumping it into a chasm or something, partially cap the layer above the base and channel out a round area where I can continue to build up from to the level of the old pipe.  I could then insert floodgates along the height for various uses and the pipe wouldn't be so random.

[loser]

Secondly: its hard to 'lower' things in wurm.

Wurm? Wrong game my friend =P

To answer the question, it would be nearly impossible to do such a thing. The only thing that doesn't deconstruct when dropped is an unmined area. Buildings from the B>C menu would deconstruct, there has been tests before that proved this. And it was mentioned that the bottom of the magma vent acts as a chasm for items, so anything that did fall would go buh bye if the bottom tiles are magma flows.

The only real way I can think of doing this has been mentioned, to dig your own 'chasm' and fill it from a magma source, preferably one that replenishes.

Edit: actually it could work if you had an underground magma source that was only a few floors thick, and wasn't a magma flow. You would just have to collapse a pillar of unmined rock into the magma, and profit.

Know what, never mind. I'll just make a tower around the volcano. Awesome lava pit of death anyone?

If you build the tower so that the only things holding it up are a small number of otherwise unreachable supports, you can then have an Evil Mastermind Fortress of Doom Self-Destruct Lever that drops the whole damn castle into the volcano.

Sure you could just use a single support, but a tower over a volcano held up by spidery legs is more appealing.

[Ancient Whale]

I think you can also drop water onto the magma. This will create an obsidian wall, which behaves exactly as unmined rock, and if unsupported, will drop right down to the bottom and stay intact. You would still need to have a bottom in the magma pool, or it would fall out the bottom of the world, I think.

[Eita]

Secondly: its hard to 'lower' things in wurm.

Wurm? Wrong game my friend =P

To answer the question, it would be nearly impossible to do such a thing. The only thing that doesn't deconstruct when dropped is an unmined area. Buildings from the B>C menu would deconstruct, there has been tests before that proved this. And it was mentioned that the bottom of the magma vent acts as a chasm for items, so anything that did fall would go buh bye if the bottom tiles are magma flows.

The only real way I can think of doing this has been mentioned, to dig your own 'chasm' and fill it from a magma source, preferably one that replenishes.

Edit: actually it could work if you had an underground magma source that was only a few floors thick, and wasn't a magma flow. You would just have to collapse a pillar of unmined rock into the magma, and profit.

Know what, never mind. I'll just make a tower around the volcano. Awesome lava pit of death anyone?

If you build the tower so that the only things holding it up are a small number of otherwise unreachable supports, you can then have an Evil Mastermind Fortress of Doom Self-Destruct Level that drops the whole damn castle into the volcano.

Sure you could just use a single support, but a tower over a volcano held up by spidery legs is more appealing.

So going to put that inside the castle. Honestly, I think that the collapse would crush my underground lodgings too.

....

I just got an awesome idea. Picture the Fallout series, in Dwarf Fortress.

@Andir: Where can I get that visualizer?

[loser]

There's no way to cap the bottom of the volcano, either.  Falling rock has no latteral cohesion.

However, if the bottom is more narrow than the top, or even if the middle is more narrow than the top, then pouring water in might build you the stacks of stone you want to see sticking out of the lava.  They just won't stick out over the open path leading to the bottomless bottom z-level.

So going to put that inside the castle. Honestly, I think that the collapse would crush my underground lodgings too.

Lever.  I meant 'lever'.

One lever drops the whole damn tower into the volcano along with all its workshops, henchment lodgings, henchmen, traps, tricks and treasure.

[Eita]

I know. I'm going to put the lever inside.