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[Kagus]

THE DEAD RISE!

Where once lay only dead-and-forgotten community fort concepts in the fallow soil, there now surges forth dark and suspicious energies! As it was prophesied, so shall it be slain! Necrothreat!

For the accursed turn list and further details, see reply #29 (Page 2 on default posts-per-page settings)

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Okay, I've got an idea for a new type of forum endeavour.  It's a communo-succession fortress (some players can take a turn, others can just grab a character) that pits humans against zombies.<P>It will require a little modding, and each player will have to install the mini-mod for their turn, but I doubt people will be too upset about that.  I've already created a few aspects of it, and I wanted to know if anyone would actually be interested before I continue.<P><BR>Here's the setup:  Zombies are not affected by suffocation, nausea, paralysis, pain, exertion  etc., however they do not use any weapons other than their fists and poisonous bites.  They are slow, numerous, and will start sieging from the get-go.  They do not ambush or sneak, however they <I>can</I> break down doors and other buildings.<P>I want to know what a good speed for these guys would be (I've got it at 1200 now.  Might need to be a little slower), and whether or not they should bleed.  I also want to know if anyone would actually play this.<P><BR>Any questions, comments or suggestions?<P><BR>EDIT:  Typo.<P>[ March 11, 2008: Message edited by: Kagus ]<P>EDIT2: Changed title to attract more viewers.<P>[ March 12, 2008: Message edited by: Kagus ]<P>EDIT3: Changed title again to avoid confusion.<p>[ March 20, 2008: Message edited by: Kagus ]

[Quift]

I love this!

[Koji]

They shouldn't bleed. The survivors will be doing enough of that as it is.

Remove a lot of unnecessary animals/creatures from the game, as they'll complicate matters in ways that distract from the original goal. Make the survivors have screwed up mental attributes, and maybe fiddle with the starting points.

[Kagus]

I'm not really sure how to fiddle with the start points...   If I knew how, that would most certainly be helpful.

Also, did you have any particular animals in mind for removal?  Or any specific ones that shouldn't be removed?

I'd also like to point out that this is not a modern (I.E., shotguns and chainsaws) zombie mod.  This is a medieval fantasy zompocalypse, so people will still be swinging swords and wearing tunics.

[Moocow]

Is it even possible to make them siege very often?

[Kagus]

Well, goblins siege very often.  Zombies have a higher population than goblins (as though that made any difference) and they don't have the high fort-pop requirements of goblins, so they should be on you from the start.

I can try and see if I can make them try to migrate to your fort as well.  It probably won't work, but it's worth a shot.

[Kagus]

Okay, three people showed interest.  I don't think that calls for launching the thing.

Sorry lads, but I was putting it to a vote of sorts.  No interest, no fort.  I don't have enough time to spend it on more things where I have to hold the whole thing up myself.

[Tahin]

I'd be interested in this...

[Kagus]

That still just makes four.  I've got enough things on my plate as it is (and I say that for all of them...), I don't need to add mini-mod succession fort to it if we've only got a few other guys in on it.  

Still, maybe with this li'l bump, someone else will wander by and give their two cents worth.  I'll keep the folder with the mini-mod in it, and maybe make an adjustment from time to time (I still want a zombie mod at some point...), so it'll be open.  If I get six people, I'll go ahead and give it a shot.  Maybe folks will perk up a bit when it actually hits the field.

[Bricktop]

I'd be interested in this.

Also, you'll probably get a lot more interest when it actually starts.

[myd]

I'm interested too. I agree, just get started, people will join after they see some action.

[ricemastah]

Kagus so far everything you have done has been awesome. Seriously if you begin it I bet people will want to join in.

[Kagus]

Okay, but setting the thing up is being a bit tricky.  It's kinda hard not to start planting modern-ish ideas into it, since that's the zombiepocalypse we all know and love.  Modern things really, really don't fit in well with the current system, so I'll have to be a bit more clever at thinking of ways around that.  Suggestions, are, of course, greatly appreciated.

I'll also need to do some testing to see if the zombies will actually attack as early as they're supposed to.  I'll make a few more adjustments, and then put up a beta for a few guys to test out and report back their findings.  This will give me more time to work on other things, and will also provide more eyes looking at the same thing, which is always handy.

Zombies have had their clothing removed.   I don't think the piles of random clothing will be missed.

[valcon]

Alright, alright Kagus. I'll give you permission to do this; but don't you think for a SECOND I'm gonna let you forget about the Woodsman or DnG! =)

As for the zombo's, I've been a fan of the newer generation of fast zombies.  They're terrifying and effective while the older, slower, "braaaaaains" type zombies were more humorous and comical.  

I suppose which to choose would depend on the feel you'd like for the fort.  Dwarf Fortress itself is often a combination of terrifying and hilarious, so either way, it should be a good fit.

[Earthquake Damage]

I suggest adding zombies as wandering [BIOME:ANY_LAND] creatures as well.  Give them [LARGE_PREDATOR], [CURIOUSBEAST], [RECKLESS], [LIKES_FIGHTING], and maybe [COLDDAM_POINT:somethingverylow].  High LAYERING seems to restrict them to regions within their comfort zone, and I assume their comfort zone is determined by their heat/cold damage points.  Regardless, while arctic zombies may be silly, zombies in cold regions aren't quite as silly (given that these are necromantic zombies, not viral still-living ones).

Oh, and if you do add "wild" zombies, you may want to add [INVADERS_IGNORE_NEUTRALS] and [AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE] to your zombie civ.  You can't have "attacks non-zombies" at the same time as "doesn't attack roaming zombies," but "doesn't attack roaming zombies" is probably more critical.

[ March 18, 2008: Message edited by: Earthquake Damage ]