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Author Topic: What is the token reference to chunks?  (Read 1314 times)

JustOnePixel

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What is the token reference to chunks?
« on: December 22, 2007, 10:10:00 pm »

Hey everybody,

Subject pretty much says it all.  What is the token/matgloss/whatever it's called for animal chunks?

And while I'm at it...I keep hearing reference to "looking" inside the game exe.  How're you all going about that?  Which programs do you use?

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2007, 12:33:00 am »

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Originally posted by JustOnePixel:
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And while I'm at it...I keep hearing reference to "looking" inside the game exe.  How're you all going about that?  Which programs do you use?</STRONG>

What references?

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 12:53:00 am »

Chunks would seem to be a result of size.
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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2007, 01:21:00 am »

"Looking in the game exe" is a common way to find various text embedded in the executable, provided it's not compressed. One may use special programs like ResourceHack (I think that was the name) to find everything, including icons and text files. I use WinRar for this purpose, as the more readily available. If you open the WinRar window, browse to the .exe, select it, and press "view" on WinRar's panel, you will get a text representation of the executable. Scroll almost all the way down, and you will see bits of readable text start to pop up. There are various things to find, icluding major spoilers (like every possible message the game can give you...  "there's nothing to catch in the magma" was one that surprised me...), and lists of all tag used in raws, denoted by appropriate error messages given when a tag is not recognized.
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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2007, 01:26:00 am »

Theres nothing to catch in the magma?

WHAT THE HELL!

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2007, 03:27:00 am »

@ Sean: Thanks very much.  That clears up quite a bit of a mystery.

@Ziusudra: Thanks for that link.  What I'm looking for, though, is the actual object data of a chunk - I'd like to make chunks usable in a smelter reaction.

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2007, 02:18:00 pm »

I think chunks must be hard coded.
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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2007, 03:06:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Ziusudra:
<STRONG>I think chunks must be hard coded.</STRONG>

Hmm, drat...no possible way that they could be accessed then, eh?

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2007, 03:07:00 pm »

Speaking of looking through the exe, I remember seeing a FIGURINE item type tag...  I wonder what that is?
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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2007, 04:36:00 pm »

I think you can change the name of a creature's chunks using the [REMAINS:singular:plural] token.  Does that help?

FIGURINE might be the item type of skull totems and/or stone/wood/metal idols.

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2007, 06:36:00 pm »

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<STRONG>I think you can change the name of a creature's chunks</STRONG>

That sounds so wrong.

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2007, 12:58:00 am »

I've not actually tested this, but I would assume that chunks come under the CORPSEPIECE category. It's highly likely that you'd need to specify a subcategory as well, CHUNK would be my first guess, although as I say, this is pure guesswork.
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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2007, 09:19:00 pm »

Except a search in all the files in raw\objects for 'chunk' onlu returns the language files.
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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2007, 09:27:00 pm »

"REMAINS" does the chunk/remains items.  "CORPSEPIECE" is for severed limbs and so on.  I haven't tried either of them with reactions or item corpses for creatures.  I doubt corpse piece will be well-behaved, since you can't send in a body part, but remains might work if you send the creature token in, but it might not be supported since it's not a standard material.  I don't remember quite where that's at.

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Re: What is the token reference to chunks?
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2007, 10:00:00 pm »

It's really great whit a developer that actually involves whit the community like this, just wanted to say you're awesome Toady!  :)
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