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[Thallone]

So, On a whim, I decided to make Giant cave spiders as common as the cloth they're so famous for. To that end I added [BIOME_MOUNTAIN] to their entry, and changed [POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30] to [POPULATION_NUMBER:2:5]

I expected there to be a chance in the mountain biome for 2-5 giant cave spiders to exist. Instead, in every mountain biome square there were clusters of 4-10 or so giant cave spider webs - I didn't really count, and absolutely no spiders. In the fall of the first year, after all the webs had been converted into cloth (started with a Proficient weaver) I ran into a single giant spiderweb spun across a huge hidden web, but still no spiders  

So, any idea where all the spiders I though I'd have to face are? Did I miss something?

Also, I genned a new world. Is that necessary for all creature changes like this?

[Wiles]

I think you also need [CLUSTER_NUMBER:#:#] # being replaced with the number value you want.

[ January 08, 2008: Message edited by: Wiles ]

[Thallone]

Is that in addition to or in place of the POPULATION_NUMBER?

[Thallone]

btw: thanks for the prompt reply.

[Wiles]

quote:Originally posted by Thallone:
<STRONG>Is that in addition to or in place of the POPULATION_NUMBER?</STRONG>

In addition  

[Thallone]

Awesome. Thanks

One more little detail side effect. When the Humans arrived, they had 3 bins of Giant Cave Spider Silk Cloth.    :roll:   But at least it's good to know that the code is robust enough to get the traders to carry the new and suddenly abundant goods!

[Railick Stonemane]

Do we know that 2:5 will make 2-5 cave spiders exist or is that some sort of ratio? Maybe it really means 2 out of 5 times you'll have cave spiders or there is a 2/5ths chance for a cave spider to spawn or 2 out of 5 maps will have cave spiders : P Has any one really nailed that down to be, in fact, 2-5 cave spiders?

[Kashyyk]

I *think* it means 2-5 but i could be wrong, i hevent really tested it.

[Thallone]

I don't know that anyone did. Better question though would be: since I had no giant spiders, why did every local map square that was mountain have a pile of Giant Cave Spider Silk at emabark? Maybe I should make it 1:1 and that way I gaurantee spiders, though only one per biome (or is ir per map square?) Either I'll get a pet or a very short-lived fortress.  

[Railick Stonemane]

It's really strange that you got all that spider silk just from editing a creatue file. You might have cave spidres on your map but they are under ground too. try start on a 1x1 with your settings so you don't have to look very far for them Try setting it to like 100:300 to see if you get a shit ton of them.

[Wiles]

I think 2:5 means that ther will be 2 to 5 cave spiders.

I once gave dogs the ability to make webs so I could get some silk and there were dog silk webs everywhere.  

[Railick Stonemane]

lmao, dog silk webs? I love this game. So if you give your dwarf babies the ability to make web you'll be able to start weaving dwarf baby silk?
Just as an aside. I lowered the number of cave spiders in my file and it actually made MORE cave spiders next time I played. There were WAY more than 5 O.o I went into a cave and instead of or 3 or 4 they were every where like batmen ect. I wish I was home at the moment to review what exactly I set it to.

[ January 08, 2008: Message edited by: Serondal ]

[Greiger]

They may not show up because there ambushers.  Did you search every tile of the web?

Though I would think they would show themselves the moment someone runs into the web just like in the chasms.

[ January 08, 2008: Message edited by: Greiger ]

[Thallone]

I was able to clear the map of webs with my weaver. There were none. I'm going to try putting them in creature large mountain next.

[Railick Stonemane]

That is really strange, try removing the ambusher tag from them, maybe make them hunting giant cave spiders you might even want to rename them and make them a totally new monsters like Giant Wolf Spider