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Fenrir

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Heretics!
« on: March 06, 2008, 03:14:00 pm »

The human entity has [RELIGION:ANY_APPROPRIATE_POWER] and [RELIGION_SPHERE:STRENGTH]. Why won't they follow Thor?
code:
[CREATURE:THOR]
       [NAME:Aesir:Aesir:Aesir]
   [TILE:'@'][COLOR:3:0:0]
   [GENPOWER:3]
   [BUTCHERABLE_NONSTANDARD]
   [INTELLIGENT]
   [CANOPENDOORS]
   [BENIGN]
   [PREFSTRING:strength]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:1:1]
   [BODY:HUMANOID:2EYES:2EARS:NOSE:2LUNGS:HEART:GUTS:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:SPINE:BRAIN:5FINGERS:5TOES:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:16]
   [MAXAGE:60:120]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:GRASP:punch:punches:1:2:BLUDGEON][ATTACKFLAG_WITH]
   [ATTACK:SECOND:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:1:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH]
   [CHILD:12][BABY:1][MULTIPLE_LITTER_RARE]
   [FAT:3]
   [EQUIPS]
   [DIURNAL]
   [SPEECH_MALE:human_male.txt]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10067]
   [LAYERING:10]
   [SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:2500]
   [SPHERE:STRENGTH]
   [POWER]

Note: I know that there is a recent thread here about someone's Viking mod. I haven't stolen that idea; I've been working on this mod for a while.

[ March 06, 2008: Message edited by: Fenrir ]

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Boksi

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 03:21:00 pm »

Well, who do they worship? Are they atheists?
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[BODY_DETAIL:NAIL:NAIL:NAIL]
[HAMMER:HAMMER:HAMMER]

[TSU_NOUN:nose]
[SUN_TSU_NOUN:art:war]

Fenrir

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 03:22:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Boksi:
<STRONG>Are they atheists?</STRONG>
Yes, they obviously didn't find an appropriate power, but I can't figure out why.
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Sean Mirrsen

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 03:28:00 pm »

Because your Thor is mortal. Remove the maxage tag and he'll be fine.
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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 03:29:00 pm »

Maybe they don't occur in-game? Even demons can occur in-game in HIDDEN FUN STUFF, right?

I'm not an expert on this, but I think that's the most likely solution.

EDIT: Yeah, the maxage is also a possibility. Didn't notice that.

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Fenrir

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 03:32:00 pm »

Yeah, it was maxage. Thanks! Are names for gods chosen by their sphere?
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Sean Mirrsen

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 03:44:00 pm »

Yes.

I don't remember his first name now, but a god of volcanoes was named "<something> Fireyhot the Hot Firey Fire-Flare of Flames" in my first world.

A less lucky god had some 5 instances of "cavern" in his name. RNG can do bad stuff to deities that have too few words to choose from.

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Fenrir

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 03:47:00 pm »

I added this:
code:
[SYMBOL:STRENGTH]
   [S_WORD:THOR]

I've yet to get an Aesir named Thor.

EDIT:
I also added Thor as a word.

[ March 06, 2008: Message edited by: Fenrir ]

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Helmaroc

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 05:27:00 pm »

My family name means essentially 'Thor's Stone'.
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Sean Mirrsen

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 05:27:00 pm »

That stuff is hardcoded. Religion symbols, I mean.

Strength is probably somewhere with Violence, or Defence.

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Fenrir

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 05:31:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Helmaroc:
<STRONG>My family name means essentially 'Thor's Stone'.</STRONG>
What's your family name?

quote:
Originally posted by Sean Mirrsen
<STRONG>That stuff is hardcoded. Religion symbols, I mean.
Strength is probably somewhere with Violence, or Defence.</STRONG>
So I can't get a god named Thor?
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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2008, 05:37:00 pm »

"Named" Thor - probably no.

You can name a creature "Thor", but that's probably about it.

Improbably, you can figure out what symbols link to the sphere you want, and add your word there. With some luck, eventually you'll get a god named Thor.

Getting a civilisation member to be named Thor is easier in this sense, just make a custom civ and a custom symbol, and assign the symbol to be the only one for the civ. You'll get names like Thor Thorthor the Thor-Thor of Thor easily.  :)

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2008, 05:58:00 pm »

Thurston.
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Fenrir

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2008, 06:06:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Helmaroc:
<STRONG>Thurston.</STRONG>
Awesome.  :D

I don't suppose anyone knows where religious spheres get their words. If the language_SYM.txt file has no entries for the spheres, how does the game know to call a volcano god Fireyhot the Hot Firey Fire-Flare of Flames?

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Sean Mirrsen

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Re: Heretics!
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2008, 06:10:00 pm »

Like I said - hardcoded. For one, it uses VOLCANO_NAME. It probably uses something else.
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