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Anjinsan

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Modding Cave spiders
« on: November 11, 2007, 04:01:00 pm »
I got it in me to make those damn spiders slightly less lethal in adventure mode, and figured I'd take away the paralyzing bite and the no pain ability.

How should I edit the raw to do that?  What I'm looking at now:

quote:
[CREATURE:SPIDER_CAVE_GIANT]
   [NAME:giant cave spider:giant cave spiders:giant cave spider]
   [TILE:'S'][COLOR:7:0:0]
   [MODVALUE:10]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:20][DIFFICULTY:3]
   [EXTRACT:giant cave spider venom:7:0:0]
   [EXTRACT_VALUE:100]
   [EXTRACT_PARALYZE][NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC]
   [EXTRACT_ANTIDOTE:giant cave spider antivenin:7:0:0:100]
   [WEBBER][THICKWEB][WEBIMMUNE][AMBUSHPREDATOR][PARALYZEIMMUNE]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [GENPOWER:4]
   [BLOODTYPE:W][CHITIN]
   [PETVALUE:2500]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:10]
   [CARNIVORE]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOSTUN][NOEMOTION][NOSKULL][NOBONES]
   [BUILDINGDESTROYER:1]
   [NOFEAR]
   [PREFSTRING:mystery]
   [BODY:SPIDER:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:10]
   [MAXAGE:20:30]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH][SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100]
   [FAT:1]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
   [BIOME_SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10040]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]
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The Hidden

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2007, 04:06:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Anjinsan:
<STRONG>I got it in me to make those damn spiders slightly less lethal in adventure mode, and figured I'd take away the paralyzing bite and the no pain ability.

How should I edit the raw to do that?  What I'm looking at now:

</STRONG>

Wait, spiders can't feel pain?


Basically, just remove  [EXTRACT_PARALYZE], [NOPAIN] and the [SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100] and create your new world.

[ November 11, 2007: Message edited by: The Hidden ]

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Kyselina

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2007, 04:14:00 am »
They don't have [NOPAIN], they got [NOFEAR].
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2007, 06:24:00 am »
Actually they do. It even says so just two lines above [NOFEAR].
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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2007, 03:43:00 am »
Geez, no wonder these things are so hard to kill.
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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2007, 07:20:00 am »
Pain only makes it easier to kill stuff because carving off a limb or two is enough to put most creatures with no toughness into a rather long state of shock.  :)
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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2007, 08:00:00 am »
So no pain and no fear? Thats strong.
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The Hidden

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 05:28:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by BDR:
<STRONG>Pain only makes it easier to kill stuff because carving off a limb or two is enough to put most creatures with no toughness into a rather long state of shock.   :)</STRONG>

Carving off just one limb can make even the toughest creatures give into pain...

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2007, 03:39:00 am »
Actually you should only have to remove [SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100] and [NOPAIN].

It was not necessary in previous versions to create a new world due to removing tags such as these, but I haven't tried the newest version so dunno, but doubt it.

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2007, 12:55:00 pm »
Easier?
Personally, i was considering making them harder... lets see... what can i do to them..


code:
[CREATURE:SPIDER_CAVE_GIANT]
   [NAME:giant cave spider:giant cave spiders:giant cave spider]
   [TILE:'S'][COLOR:7:0:0]
   [MODVALUE:10]
   [LARGE_ROAMING][FREQUENCY:10][DIFFICULTY:3]
   [EXTRACT:giant cave spider venom:7:0:0]
   [EXTRACT_VALUE:100]
   [EXTRACT_PARALYZE][NATURAL][PET_EXOTIC]
   [EXTRACT_ANTIDOTE:giant cave spider antivenin:7:0:0:100]
   [WEBBER][THICKWEB][WEBIMMUNE][AMBUSHPREDATOR][PARALYZEIMMUNE]
   [FIREBREATH][FIREIMMUNE][MAGMA_VISION]
   [DEFENDER][DAMBLOCK:8][CAN_LEARN]
   [SPEED:750]
   [LARGE_PREDATOR]
   [GENPOWER:4]
   [BLOODTYPE:W][CHITIN]
   [PETVALUE:2500]
   [GRASSTRAMPLE:10]
   [CARNIVORE]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOSTUN][NOEMOTION][NOSKULL][NOBONES]
   [NOEXERT][NOBREATHE][NOBLEED][NONAUSEA][TRAPAVOID]
   [MATERIAL:METAL:IRON]
   [BUILDINGDESTROYER:1]
   [NOFEAR]
   [PREFSTRING:glistening mandibles]
   [PREFSTRING:unnatural size]
   [BODY:SPIDER:2EYES:HEART:GUTS:BRAIN:MOUTH]
   [SIZE:30]
   [MAXAGE:20:30]
   [ATTACK:MAIN:BYTYPE:MOUTH:bite:bites:1:6:GORE][ATTACKFLAG_CANLATCH][SPECIALATTACK_INJECT_EXTRACT:50:100]
   [FAT:1]
   [NO_SLEEP]
   [ALL_ACTIVE]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:15:30]
   [BIOME_SUBTERRANEAN_CHASM]
   [HOMEOTHERM:10040]
   [STANDARD_FLESH]

i'll test it later, to see if i need to remake the world to make these things push aside zombie carp as the number one threat to dwarf kind.

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2007, 02:45:00 pm »
Magma vision.

You gave them magma vision.

What the hell?!?!

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2007, 03:36:00 pm »
I'd get rid of [NOSTUN] as well.
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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2007, 08:18:00 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Silleh Boy:
<STRONG>Easier?
Personally, i was considering making them harder... lets see... what can i do to them..

*insert data here*

i'll test it later, to see if i need to remake the world to make these things push aside zombie carp as the number one threat to dwarf kind.</STRONG>

Just add on "unicorn elephant demon" to the end of the name, make it spawn in insane amounts, and you have a winner!

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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2007, 08:15:00 pm »
Don't real spiders give into pain or just die after much torment is done to them?
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Re: Modding Cave spiders
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2007, 02:03:00 pm »
The thing that bugs me the most is the fact that there's so many of them, feels like almost every cave has atleast 2 of them. So far I havent been able to kill a single one either.
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