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[ToonyMan]

I love making posts today about who I think could have killed Sal under the assumption that mafia actually had to use the mafiakill as a dedicated ability. Amazing, just amazing.

Yes I'm kind of mad.

[Imp]

I really don't think anything Krr1ss says matters.  To Krr1ss.

Check out this mid D1 reads list:

Umm, I'll reread and make earnest effort later. Kinda busy atm. I did read it all tho and preliminary thoughts for people I do remember:

Town:
Vermillion - The whole role thing kinda makes them town and even if they aren't, idgaf as they will die soon enough anyway.
Imp - I hosted a game where she was scum and although it's been for a little while only due to the game ending early, I managed to get a preliminary idea of her thought process as well as scum play. Here, she is different from my POV.

Probs town:
Kitten - Feels towny for me, idk what Urist sees in them. Maybe Urist is trying to get people's opinions on this?
Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

Netural: I remember there being some crystal person, and then uhh, jack or something idk, I forgot them all. Got no reads as I can't even remember them. Will take out a notebook as this is my first big game and ngl, it's more complicated then I thought.

Scum leans:
Urist - Don't like the vibes. I understand that's his usual vibes but all games I had with him were when I was scum so I can't properly judge. I do see him as somewhat different here and I don't like it too much. Maybe because he is taking this more seriously? Either way, I definitely don't mind him gone.
Agentt - Vibes and I forgot why but I found him scummy yesterday.

I forgot more than half the lobby so forgive me, I'll reread hahah. This time, with notes, and will try to be as proactive as possible.

Compare to this late D1 reads list... he doesn't even remember or care that he'd read me before.  His reads dance all over no explanation why they change.  He doesn't remember or care what he says.

As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal, Agentt
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
Verm, Toaster
NULL:
Urist, Sal, Jim
Weak Scum Leans:
NQT, Jack, Tooney
Strong Scum Leans:
Cat
Scum Reads:
N/A

Here's a preliminary list without Imp's ISO and before I read Cat. I just added Cat in strong scum leans afterwards. I will try reading IMP but I don't know if I can rn (not because I don't find her posts fun, trust me, I may find her posts the most fun in fact) but because it's 1:30am and she seems to have LOTS of content hahah

I talk a lot because I care what I say and want to say it.  I own what I say.  This... is maybe literally scumplay based on 'the fingers fly and wash all sense away'.  Plus all the lies.

I get not wanting to iso this.  I don't get not elim of this.

[Imp]

It definitely wasn't stated that the mafiakill was a (Free) ability in the OP and I was under the assumption that it wasn't. Love it.

Thanks Fallacy.

We should be voting players we think are scummy anyway.

I am.  Please oh please join me.

[Krr1ss]

The basic Mafiakill being (Free) is a detail listed in the original post.

Edit: okay, maybe it isn't. In any case, this detail is intended to be public knowledge, and I believe it was explicitly stated in previous games.

Thanks


Btwwwwwwwwwwww, what does "Re: I am not mad just disappointed" mean in the thread name? Is this Fallacy's doing? Would I be crazy if I find this as a possible Sal doing? Actually yeah, I think that I am tinfoiling too much.

notquitethere changed the subject in his post, you can do it too.

Ohh, I see

[Krr1ss]

I really don't think anything Krr1ss says matters.  To Krr1ss.

Check out this mid D1 reads list:

Umm, I'll reread and make earnest effort later. Kinda busy atm. I did read it all tho and preliminary thoughts for people I do remember:

Town:
Vermillion - The whole role thing kinda makes them town and even if they aren't, idgaf as they will die soon enough anyway.
Imp - I hosted a game where she was scum and although it's been for a little while only due to the game ending early, I managed to get a preliminary idea of her thought process as well as scum play. Here, she is different from my POV.

Probs town:
Kitten - Feels towny for me, idk what Urist sees in them. Maybe Urist is trying to get people's opinions on this?
Tric - Probably just someone trying for hat victory but they are still town. I'd appreciate it if we all decided to collectively have only one person mug them while another assesses them. Vermillion mugging seems like a good option as their chances of hat victory seem as slim as mine. Imp can assess cuz I town her.

Netural: I remember there being some crystal person, and then uhh, jack or something idk, I forgot them all. Got no reads as I can't even remember them. Will take out a notebook as this is my first big game and ngl, it's more complicated then I thought.

Scum leans:
Urist - Don't like the vibes. I understand that's his usual vibes but all games I had with him were when I was scum so I can't properly judge. I do see him as somewhat different here and I don't like it too much. Maybe because he is taking this more seriously? Either way, I definitely don't mind him gone.
Agentt - Vibes and I forgot why but I found him scummy yesterday.

I forgot more than half the lobby so forgive me, I'll reread hahah. This time, with notes, and will try to be as proactive as possible.

Compare to this late D1 reads list... he doesn't even remember or care that he'd read me before.  His reads dance all over no explanation why they change.  He doesn't remember or care what he says.

As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal, Agentt
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
Verm, Toaster
NULL:
Urist, Sal, Jim
Weak Scum Leans:
NQT, Jack, Tooney
Strong Scum Leans:
Cat
Scum Reads:
N/A

Here's a preliminary list without Imp's ISO and before I read Cat. I just added Cat in strong scum leans afterwards. I will try reading IMP but I don't know if I can rn (not because I don't find her posts fun, trust me, I may find her posts the most fun in fact) but because it's 1:30am and she seems to have LOTS of content hahah

I talk a lot because I care what I say and want to say it.  I own what I say.  This... is maybe literally scumplay based on 'the fingers fly and wash all sense away'.  Plus all the lies.

I get not wanting to iso this.  I don't get not elim of this.

You do understand that one was vibes based and I didn't even have a hang of everyone in the lobby? Just the people mentioned.
And then the other one I did with actual ISOing (which also helped me a lot to remember names).

Imp you played 50 or so games right? I don't know your usual behaviour but surely you are able to recognize the amount of tunneling and conf!bias you are doing rn. I literally explained in the posts on what basis were they created...

[Jim Groovester]

Pfp

At work

Barely reading the thread

I don't think Krr1ss is a good Elim for D2.

[Imp]

You do understand that one was vibes based and I didn't even have a hang of everyone in the lobby? Just the people mentioned.
And then the other one I did with actual ISOing (which also helped me a lot to remember names).

Imp you played 50 or so games right? I don't know your usual behaviour but surely you are able to recognize the amount of tunneling and conf!bias you are doing rn. I literally explained in the posts on what basis were they created...

I don't think literally anything you say in this game matters.

Maybe you have a post restriction where you must lie or else.  You don't say stuff you mean.  Heck.  You even talk about if Fallacy lied to you in your DMs.

You don't apparently mean or care about what you say in this game.

I think you are anti-town and I am not done with you.  I 'tunnel' you because I intend to see you elim.

This is me, town me.  It was me last game where NJW was the anti-town I marked D1 and chased D1 and D2, and only stopped chasing to help hide a lie I told (very rare, but if my wincon needs it, I'll do it) and finally elimed f3.

I can't stand how you are playing.  I have intense negative trust of you this game.  We have meta out of game, a tiny bit.

High confidence, you are anti-town.  I want you elim today.

[Krr1ss]

You do understand that one was vibes based and I didn't even have a hang of everyone in the lobby? Just the people mentioned.
And then the other one I did with actual ISOing (which also helped me a lot to remember names).

Imp you played 50 or so games right? I don't know your usual behaviour but surely you are able to recognize the amount of tunneling and conf!bias you are doing rn. I literally explained in the posts on what basis were they created...

I don't think literally anything you say in this game matters.

Maybe you have a post restriction where you must lie or else.  You don't say stuff you mean.  Heck.  You even talk about if Fallacy lied to you in your DMs.

You don't apparently mean or care about what you say in this game.

I think you are anti-town and I am not done with you.  I 'tunnel' you because I intend to see you elim.

This is me, town me.  It was me last game where NJW was the anti-town I marked D1 and chased D1 and D2, and only stopped chasing to help hide a lie I told (very rare, but if my wincon needs it, I'll do it) and finally elimed f3.

I can't stand how you are playing.  I have intense negative trust of you this game.  We have meta out of game, a tiny bit.

High confidence, you are anti-town.  I want you elim today.

Actually fair. There's no point anymore. I'll just ignore this until after the game and then, hopefully in a funny and not pissed way, whether you regret it and/or learnt.

[ToonyMan]

@Imp:
Krr1ss hasn't kept a consistent logic this entire game. Their feelings on players change on mere whims such as what they had to eat today or the direction wind is blowing. Behaviorally I don't think they're scum. You aren't going to listen to me so it doesn't matter but I might as well mention this again.

I'm eating dinner and then I'm going to post my D2 reads (that I need to rewrite some because of the (Free) mafiakill).

[TricMagic]

I am of the opinion we should lynch Toaster today over anyone else. Failing that Vermillion.
Agentt, are you here to argue the point? Verm certainly isn't, and didn't bother to participate nearly as much in Theater as we did.

[Imp]

@Imp:
Krr1ss hasn't kept a consistent logic this entire game. Their feelings on players change on mere whims such as what they had to eat today or the direction wind is blowing. Behaviorally I don't think they're scum. You aren't going to listen to me so it doesn't matter but I might as well mention this again.

I'm eating dinner and then I'm going to post my D2 reads (that I need to rewrite some because of the (Free) mafiakill).

I hope web is not scum, if we don't kill him today.  If web is scum, a likely second partner could be Max.  But without a web flip, how would we know?

Just.

Believe in me about Webadict.

If he's scum, I'll know.

sofanthiel

I dunno, maybe this works. I trust ToonyMan is town here and I think he can read webadict, but there's nothing I can do to stop it anymore, so might as well hope it works out.

But hey, ToonyMan, can you find me that meme from a few games ago where there's crickets at EoD only when we're lynching town?

End of Day One
Vote Count — Day 1
- Crystalizedmire - [2] Elephant Parade, FallacyofUrist
- Elephant Parade -
- Euchrejack -
- FallacyofUrist -   
- Imp -
- Quarque -
- Maximum Spin
- NJW2000 -
- Sofanthiel - [5] TricMagic, Toonyman, Euchrejack, webadict, Maximum Spin
- Toonyman -
- TricMagic - 
- Webadict - [4] Imp, Crystalizedmire, Sofanthiel, Quarque
- No Elimination

Sofanthiel has been eliminated. Sofanthiel was a Fluxlord, a Neutral Third-Party.

Webadict has been eliminated. Webadict was mafia.

Spoiler: Sofanthiel (click to show/hide)

Recursion
Meta-->Convolution-->Flux-->Mimic-->Cascade-->Over-powered

Your goal is to maximise change. You win and leave the game when every living player has a different ability set than when they started. You can win while dead if this condition is met before or when the game ends. You can lose if the game ends with a Town or Mafia win before your goal is reached.

What counts as a "different ability set":
 A non-item ability has changed its effect or spheres
A non-item ability has gained or lost spheres
A non-item ability has been stolen
- A non-item ability has been gained (including copies of other player's abilities)

What doesn't count as "different ability set":
Shots are depleted or replenished from A limited-shot ability
- Items are gained, lost or changed (they're meant to be moved around)

[Auto](Overpowered)(Convolution) Reiteration: You have an additional action per turn for each different non-auto, non-item ability you have. (i.e. extra copies of the same ability don't count, even if they have new anonymised names)

[Auto] (Mimic)(Flux) Infinite Regress: While you are alive, once per night if a copying, mutating, or stealing ability would pick a random player, it picks you.

(Meta)(Mimic) Blueshift [blue sphere]: Every time a player uses a non-auto ability with this sphere this night, they will gain a copy of Strange Loop.

(Mimic)(Cascade) Strange Loop [target]: Target gains a copy of this ability and you gain an anonymised copy of one of their non-item, non-(mafiakill), non-auto abilities. If the target already had a copy of this ability, every pre-existing copy targets a random player. If anyone gains 10 copies of this, all their copies are destroyed.

[item] Red Chaos Emerald: This is a red chaos emerald and has no action attached.

Spoiler: Webadict (click to show/hide)

Chaos Emeralds
Mutation -> Flux -> Cascade -> Over-powered -> Slow -> Improvement

[Auto](Slow)(Cascade) Scattered Emeralds: At the start of the game, six random players have a chaos emerald. Chaos Emeralds come in seven colours (green, red, blue, yellow, purple, turquoise, white) and have no action attached. If anyone carries two emeralds of the same colour, one of those emeralds will be revealed as a fake and destroyed. Other players don't know the associated spheres of the emeralds, but you do:

Emeralds
Green: Improvement - (Already collected at the start)
Red: Redirection
Blue: Setup Knowledge
Yellow: Action Detection
Purple: Necromancy
Turquoise: Votes
White: Protection

[Auto](Mutation) Collect Emerald [emerald color]: When you perform an action on a player (including "Give Item"), if that player has chaos emeralds at the end of the night, you will take a random emerald they own. At the start of the next phase, your Harness Emerald Power changes according to the latest emerald gained by any means.

(Improvement)(Cascade)(Flux) Harness Emerald [target]: Replenish your target's limited-shot abilities at the end of the night. Your target's next action on someone also replenishes all their targets limited-shot abilities at the end of the night. (A player will be informed of this if and only if they have abilities that require replenishing.)

[Free](Mafiakill) Wrong Hands: Tonight your Harness Emerald ability will also mafiakill its target(s).

[Auto](Overpowered)(Slow) Supersonic Form: If you carry 7 different Chaos Emeralds, you can use each previous version of Harness Emerald once per night (i.e. use Harness Emerald up to seven times with seven different effects).

[item] Green Chaos Emerald: This is a green chaos emerald and has no action attached.

You are Mafia. You win when town can no longer win.

[Magma Mater]

@TricMagic who is your most confident town read right now?

[Crystalizedmire]

I am of the opinion we should lynch Toaster today over anyone else. Failing that Vermillion.
Agentt, are you here to argue the point? Verm certainly isn't, and didn't bother to participate nearly as much in Theater as we did.

Why risk eliminating the cop?

Imp: Your last post means nothing.

[TricMagic]

Crystal you are also on the chopping block. Innocent is a very odd term to use when I know Sinner is also a term in play.

@TricMagic who is your most confident town read right now?

Oddly enough Agentt. Haven't really been doing anything in this mess but at least they put stuff forward and playing the game. Hence being willing to just cut off Vermillion in spite of a claimed pseudo-cop role. I get the feeling they'd watch one of us and then claim we were a killer. Likely Agentt, followed by me dying when Verm does.

[TricMagic]

On a side note, please ignore Impaniking, it's approaching the end of the day and Imp gets like this.