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[Krr1ss]

Btw, I just wanna mention on how we probably shouldn't rely on role->alignment reads because my hat and role are scum sided and yet I randed town. In fact, my role would be double as powerful as scum.

I mentioned this a lot earlier if anyone cares :/

[ToonyMan]

- Tric has two votes, he votes me because I have two votes

Tric said his hat is a 2-shot I believe. He won't have 2 votes after today because he burned his sunglasses the first two days he could. This is another action that feels odd to me if they're mafia. Saving your double vote sunglasses until when it really matters in the late games makes so much more sense as mafia. At the very least you would feel highly incentivized to hold onto the sunglasses without using them as long as possible.

Even if you aren't scum NQT I'm at least feeling better about Tric the more I go over it.

[ToonyMan]

I think NQT is hiding from us. I think they know why my ability was Disabled.

1. I've tried to be forthcoming where it makes sense to be, but there's certainly more I can do today.
2. I have no idea why you were disabled (if you were disabled). I don't have any reason to lie about that. Feel free to try it again.

Fair enough.

I'm at work I can't really be spending time here until the evening I'll try to give an updated D2 reads list then with a more solidified vote on someone.

[notquitethere]

I think it's exceedingly likely that a town!Kris with a power as described is just not seeing the utility of it. Fallacy will have given at least a cursory thought to the tactical space for any given town player's power. Kris (if not lying) is probably not thinking through the power creatively enough, or doesn't yet see how it will interact with some other players' abilities.

Tric said his hat is a 2-shot I believe. He won't have 2 votes after today because he burned his sunglasses the first two days he could. This is another action that feels odd to me if they're mafia. Saving your double vote sunglasses until when it really matters in the late games makes so much more sense as mafia. At the very least you would feel highly incentivized to hold onto the sunglasses without using them as long as possible.

Even if you aren't scum NQT I'm at least feeling better about Tric the more I go over it.

Ordinarily yes, it would be best to keep a power like that in your back pocket as mafia (or anyone else) but in this setup Tric has very good reason to think the hat would be stolen off of him before it matters most, so he may not wanted the other team to get use out of it more than he wanted to use it for himself.

[TricMagic]

So who is supposed to get voted out today? I suggest making a top three from everyone. (in no particular order, just who you would want flipped)

NQT
Toony
Toaster

Magma you scrape by.

[Krr1ss]

So who is supposed to get voted out today? I suggest making a top three from everyone. (in no particular order, just who you would want flipped)

NQT
Toony
Toaster

Magma you scrape by.

Jack
Crystal
NQT

I still think that Verm is likely to flip scum, I understand others reads with Crystal and they make sense to me, and NQT is a straight out of gut read. I didn't put Verm however because I have no evidence for now and can't convince anyone so I'd rather deal with Jack because their vote on me makes zero sense to me and others are scum reading them to a reasonable degree. Their activity and night actions aren't my cup of tea either

[Krr1ss]

Thinking of, Toaster keeps slipping out of my mind. Come here and contribute

[TricMagic]

I think it's exceedingly likely that a town!Kris with a power as described is just not seeing the utility of it. Fallacy will have given at least a cursory thought to the tactical space for any given town player's power. Kris (if not lying) is probably not thinking through the power creatively enough, or doesn't yet see how it will interact with some other players' abilities.

Tric said his hat is a 2-shot I believe. He won't have 2 votes after today because he burned his sunglasses the first two days he could. This is another action that feels odd to me if they're mafia. Saving your double vote sunglasses until when it really matters in the late games makes so much more sense as mafia. At the very least you would feel highly incentivized to hold onto the sunglasses without using them as long as possible.

Even if you aren't scum NQT I'm at least feeling better about Tric the more I go over it.

Ordinarily yes, it would be best to keep a power like that in your back pocket as mafia (or anyone else) but in this setup Tric has very good reason to think the hat would be stolen off of him before it matters most, so he may not wanted the other team to get use out of it more than he wanted to use it for himself.

Right, was going to respond to this. As Mafia I wouldn't have used it immediately, but instead acted more towards a hat victory. Alternatively I could have used it and kept the second shot a secret under the guise of keeping it in my back pocket to break Hatlo.

Town having an extra vote literally doesn't matter to me as SK or Mafia. If you don't use that vote on me in the first place what does it matter?

[Imp]

I don't know my third yet.  Carryover from yesterday would be Jim.  I totally need to reread.

So my 'three' to consider elim between for today, as of right now (I'll have a third later) are:

Krr1ss
Krr1ss
Toaster

Honestly my deepest concern for maf is Toaster.  Krr1ss is far, far, far, far more likely to be one of Fallacy's incredibly weird super powered SK.  Who probably now has a copy of the ability I used, thank Fallacy it takes more than that to actually use the dang thing.  And maybe has something of Verm's, maybe not since he didn't use an ability last night.  Say what you want about Verm and his posting.  He's lucky when town.  He tends to do the right things especially when we work together.  We luck out together, this ain't the first game that's happened.

Toaster, there's no way we let a scared maf-claiming-Cop die the day he claims cop.  That's fine.  We have this juicy, gonna destroy the game Max Spin SK Version FBYO7 to elim.  That's fine, give the maf one more day, sure.

And Toaster, if you're town, I'm sorry.  I have no meta on you, you could be a TCk-like player, who literally was doc and didn't counterclaim the scum fake-claiming doc D1 and was elim D1 and then I was killed N1 and then freaking Max managed to sweep town, as an openly fake claimed doc and helped elim the real doc.  Our town that game let that happen.

And I'm not saying that Krr1ss is Max come back.  But he's Max-like and I really think our SK this game.  Let's gettim but good and today.

Toaster, literally just play.  If you're town we'll figure it out.  I can't protect or harm you either way, except by vote or the luck of how my magic works on others and what they do later.  Don't be scared.  Just play.  You chose to open-cop.  So come play with us.  If you're town, you have loads of allies, we all just don't know who each is.  If you're anti-town... dude.  We sort that out if that's the case.  You probably earned a lot of rope before you're harmed by town.

[Krr1ss]

This is equal to saying that I am the most trash serial killer to ever exist. Did it not occur to you that if I was a serial killer I would just shut up because I was in a pretty comfortable position before? I could have easily claimed having a passive ability or something being blocked or stuff too which would go by unnoticed by you.

[Krr1ss]

This is equal to saying that I am the most trash serial killer to ever exist. Did it not occur to you that if I was a serial killer I would just shut up because I was in a pretty comfortable position before? I could have easily claimed having a passive ability or something being blocked or stuff too which would go by unnoticed by you.

At this point, I'm staring to suspect that Imp may actually be theatrically saying this because this level of unreasonableness is something that I can't wrap my mind around.

[notquitethere]

One thing bothers me about Toastercultist's claim, is that Fallacy probably wouldn't use "Innocent" to mean not-mafia. Now probably TC is just using the terminology from his or her home site. But still, it does give me pause.

Toastercultist, what was the specific term used? You can't quote your whole PM (absolutely don't do this) but you can say a single word.

[Krr1ss]

One thing bothers me about Toastercultist's claim, is that Fallacy probably wouldn't use "Innocent" to mean not-mafia. Now probably TC is just using the terminology from his or her home site. But still, it does give me pause.

Toastercultist, what was the specific term used? You can't quote your whole PM (absolutely don't do this) but you can say a single word.

Would be nice if he also said what he checked. If it was alignment check then awesome, if it was killer check, then less awesome but cool. If it was something else, I'd love it so they clear out the misunderstanding.

[Magma Mater]

One thing bothers me about Toastercultist's claim, is that Fallacy probably wouldn't use "Innocent" to mean not-mafia. Now probably TC is just using the terminology from his or her home site. But still, it does give me pause.

Toastercultist, what was the specific term used? You can't quote your whole PM (absolutely don't do this) but you can say a single word.

This doesn't seem like something you'd ask as town. It's pretty gimmicky and won't result in anything (toastercultist probably won't even post before deadline).

[Krr1ss]

I think current votecount:

VermillionSkies (3): Krr1ss, notquitethere, notquitethere
notquitethere (3): toastercultist, TricMagic, ToonyMan
Krr1ss (3): Imp, VermillionSkies, EuchreJack
Crystalizedmire (2): Magma Mater, Jim Groovester
toastercultist (1): TricMagic
Jim Groovester (1): Agentt
Magma Mater (0):
EuchreJack (0):
ToonyMan (0):
TricMagic (0):
Agentt (0):
Imp (0):

No Execution (0):

8 votes to hammer.

Not Voting (3): Crystalizedmire