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[Magma Mater]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

[Krr1ss]

Sure, but I am serious. I don't care even if they are town, hammering early despite everyone telling you not to is enough for me no just vote for them and stop caring. Bad town is potentially worse than scum (cope).

Well, I have removed 'bad town' too - removed folks that many were sure were town and I was sure were going to hurt town.  'Worst' in FBYOR6, where we had a suicide-bomber of a many-votes role, who gleefully responded to my taunts and challenges about my concerns he was anti-town by killing us both... me supercop and very likely town and while the rest of the game was busily killing the deadly Max SK that was unbelievably powerful.  What a D5.  But the playstyle had to go.

Thing is, if a playstyle has to go, it's not because they rushed a vote.  That's a reasonable mistake, one I like us to stay far from.  A playstyle that has to go is one that's consistently making harmful-for-town choices; they're likely anti-town as well.

I'm uncomfortable with your delight in 'even if they're town, I'd permavote them' - maybe you don't mean it and just posture.  If you meant it, that alone hurts town/disguises you pretty well for a while.

I noted you... well.  Hey, these postures.  I don't get them. Like right now you're heroing and saying you don't back down?

Unfortunately I still can't make cases and think straight as I just returned home and it's time for sleep but for now, I'm still on Toony, Urist, and Jim. I get Imp's unwillingness to consider my play good and I admit that I'm a newbie that often makes mistakes and quite probably does right now, but I'm not moving my vote for now. Considering Urist's overwhelming presence as town and plays I had seen him do, this whole claim fiasco and reasons behind it are somewhat dubious to me to say the least. Toony did nothing to improve his impression too.

Which makes me wonder now that I'm typing this, Jim's impression improved in my mind, am I crazy for finding that suspicious?

I mean... you literally say "I am not moving my vote" then less than 50 words later in the same post you... move your vote.  I get you're sleepy.

But you're really inconsistent.  I dunno how much of this is 'fun for you, a pose', how much is your literal personality.  How much is maybe something alignment meaningful.  It makes me attempt to build meta on you... insane for me.  You basically tell me, as I evaluate stuff, that I cannot trust what you say.

Sure, that's not a lie about an action claim.  But you... are a very hard to believe and predict and understand and feel safe with player.  It's going to get easier for me as we keep playing together but literally if you are town you are in my 'this player is insane' basket.

It was actually pretty simple. I didn't have reason to move my vote because Urist felt the worst of the trio, but then as I was typing that post, I felt like "Jim actually actively did something to improve his impression" which pinged me danger in the sense that only wolves would bother making sure that their impression is improved.

Aaaaand it was really just SOD so I didn't think too much and just moved a vote to show off the read and see how people react to that.

And why am I even explaining that hahah. Yeah, actually, I'd put myself in "Insane" category as well, or rather, "Chaotic". I am open to lying, hiding things, changing opinions, contradicting, as long as I feel like there's some merit to it even if it's as simple as fun (the only vote for fun I did was Tric day1 and it was also a pressure vote so technically none). Aka, I am moving towards my wincon even if that may not seem as apparent to you.

[Krr1ss]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

Those always make me laugh hahahahahaha

[Magma Mater]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

Those always make me laugh hahahahahaha

Magma: *insults TricMagic repeatedly*

Also Magma: wahhhh why are you voting me for illogical reasons

[Krr1ss]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

Those always make me laugh hahahahahaha

Magma: *insults TricMagic repeatedly*

Also Magma: wahhhh why are you voting me for illogical reasons

It's a logical reason tho. You should be aware yourself that your flip is inevitable if this goes on, it just depends on the day. And the later it is, the worse for town. If you are town.

[Magma Mater]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

Those always make me laugh hahahahahaha

Magma: *insults TricMagic repeatedly*

Also Magma: wahhhh why are you voting me for illogical reasons

It's a logical reason tho. You should be aware yourself that your flip is inevitable if this goes on, it just depends on the day. And the later it is, the worse for town. If you are town.

It isn't logical. His vote on me is based on nothing more than, "I don't understand why you did this, so die." For it to be a logical read, he'd have to explain a possible scum motivation behind my actions. Hint: there is none.

If I were mafia with this role, I'd have claimed something that gets people to target me in order to lock as many town actions as possible. The way I did handle my role has ZERO possible scum motivation, it would be playing against my win condition.

[VermilionSkies]

Kriss: actually scratch that this whole thing is a Kriss post now.

Saying you're moving towards a wincon is all well and good, but I can't trust that you're working towards a town wincon - or even that you're working to a standard wincon at all. Your playstyle is both entirely unstructured at a surface level, and is actively antithetical to working with strangers for the purposes of reaching a common goal. It reminds me somewhat of Magma or, to a lesser extent, NQT and Tric, but all of them either have the competence to back it up, or are amenable to working with the rest of town in a non-antagonistic manner. Attempting to mimic the playstyle of players you respect is all well and good, but if you lack understanding of the nuances of what makes said playstyles effective, you're going to end up short. You're still my top suspect, because I simply do not believe you're not responsible for the Threads currently. Nobody has confirmed that you were Jailed other than you, which means it's either originating from scum, or doesn't exist.
Regardless, it doesn't matter as much to me anymore whether you're misguided town or scum, my current belief is that seeing your flip is more valuable than what you have to bring to the table.

[Krr1ss]

Kriss: actually scratch that this whole thing is a Kriss post now.

Saying you're moving towards a wincon is all well and good, but I can't trust that you're working towards a town wincon - or even that you're working to a standard wincon at all. Your playstyle is both entirely unstructured at a surface level, and is actively antithetical to working with strangers for the purposes of reaching a common goal. It reminds me somewhat of Magma or, to a lesser extent, NQT and Tric, but all of them either have the competence to back it up, or are amenable to working with the rest of town in a non-antagonistic manner. Attempting to mimic the playstyle of players you respect is all well and good, but if you lack understanding of the nuances of what makes said playstyles effective, you're going to end up short. You're still my top suspect, because I simply do not believe you're not responsible for the Threads currently. Nobody has confirmed that you were Jailed other than you, which means it's either originating from scum, or doesn't exist.
Regardless, it doesn't matter as much to me anymore whether you're misguided town or scum, my current belief is that seeing your flip is more valuable than what you have to bring to the table.

Okay, you assume that I am incompetent, which is fair. But why?

[Krr1ss]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

Those always make me laugh hahahahahaha

Magma: *insults TricMagic repeatedly*

Also Magma: wahhhh why are you voting me for illogical reasons

It's a logical reason tho. You should be aware yourself that your flip is inevitable if this goes on, it just depends on the day. And the later it is, the worse for town. If you are town.

It isn't logical. His vote on me is based on nothing more than, "I don't understand why you did this, so die." For it to be a logical read, he'd have to explain a possible scum motivation behind my actions. Hint: there is none.

If I were mafia with this role, I'd have claimed something that gets people to target me in order to lock as many town actions as possible. The way I did handle my role has ZERO possible scum motivation, it would be playing against my win condition.

Fair maybe? Idk, I'm sleepy

[Krr1ss]

Kriss: actually scratch that this whole thing is a Kriss post now.

Saying you're moving towards a wincon is all well and good, but I can't trust that you're working towards a town wincon - or even that you're working to a standard wincon at all. Your playstyle is both entirely unstructured at a surface level, and is actively antithetical to working with strangers for the purposes of reaching a common goal. It reminds me somewhat of Magma or, to a lesser extent, NQT and Tric, but all of them either have the competence to back it up, or are amenable to working with the rest of town in a non-antagonistic manner. Attempting to mimic the playstyle of players you respect is all well and good, but if you lack understanding of the nuances of what makes said playstyles effective, you're going to end up short. You're still my top suspect, because I simply do not believe you're not responsible for the Threads currently. Nobody has confirmed that you were Jailed other than you, which means it's either originating from scum, or doesn't exist.
Regardless, it doesn't matter as much to me anymore whether you're misguided town or scum, my current belief is that seeing your flip is more valuable than what you have to bring to the table.

Okay, you assume that I am incompetent, which is fair. But why?

From what I understand, you want me out because you assume that I am responsible for Threads and not claiming it? Plus the fact that you don't believe that I was jailed (or scum did it) and so, those reasons alone are enough for me to be voted out?

[VermilionSkies]

Like knows like, you have the demeanor of someone with just enough games under their belt to consider themselves a proper mafia player, but you don't have the expertise or enough history here to make you comfortable making reads on anyone outside your bubble of known players. Despite this, you're still approaching the game with the playstyle I mentioned before, which, due to said lack of required experience, isn't doing much for you other than making you look blustery and unreliable.
You make grand stances, but unlike some of the older players, I don't trust you to have footing on your opinions.

I want you out because I think that in your current state, you are both suspicious enough to make me consider you as a reasonable option, and worthwhile enough of a flip to make me want to see what shows up. Knowing what alignment these posts have been coming from is very tempting.

[Magma Mater]

Krr1ss is probably town

[Krr1ss]

Like knows like, you have the demeanor of someone with just enough games under their belt to consider themselves a proper mafia player, but you don't have the expertise or enough history here to make you comfortable making reads on anyone outside your bubble of known players. Despite this, you're still approaching the game with the playstyle I mentioned before, which, due to said lack of required experience, isn't doing much for you other than making you look blustery and unreliable.
You make grand stances, but unlike some of the older players, I don't trust you to have footing on your opinions.

I want you out because I think that in your current state, you are both suspicious enough to make me consider you as a reasonable option, and worthwhile enough of a flip to make me want to see what shows up. Knowing what alignment these posts have been coming from is very tempting.

Alright? Do pray tell, what is so suspicious about me tho.

[ToonyMan]

Krr1ss is probably town

I agree.

[TricMagic]

I am stressed from something else so logging off for the day.

Take care Tric. Hopefully you can get some nice rest and you'll be able to think rationally when you get back.

Those always make me laugh hahahahahaha

Magma: *insults TricMagic repeatedly*

Also Magma: wahhhh why are you voting me for illogical reasons

It's a logical reason tho. You should be aware yourself that your flip is inevitable if this goes on, it just depends on the day. And the later it is, the worse for town. If you are town.

It isn't logical. His vote on me is based on nothing more than, "I don't understand why you did this, so die." For it to be a logical read, he'd have to explain a possible scum motivation behind my actions. Hint: there is none.

If I were mafia with this role, I'd have claimed something that gets people to target me in order to lock as many town actions as possible. The way I did handle my role has ZERO possible scum motivation, it would be playing against my win condition.

My logic is that your actions are illogical from my perspective. If you want to draw mafia, play to the point mafia has to target you. You don't.