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Author Topic: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)  (Read 12976 times)

Jim Groovester

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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #780 on: March 09, 2025, 01:10:41 am »

I said it's really unlikely that you are the one affecting hats because someone used an ability on me that targets 6 people. I assumed that was yours - are you saying it isn't?
My ability name is a reference to the fact that it allows me to experience what it's like to be mafia. I'm never mafia, I have to use an ability to experience what that's like.

No, that one is mine. I only used that ability on you though.

This doesn't answer the substance of my question about why you claimed you didn't lose your hat after EuchreJack claimed he destroyed yours.

Three people targeted me with non-hat actions last night. I know this because I usurped three abilities. Anyone want to claim being usurped?

Both Agentt and I have claimed to be Usurped.

Also somebody gave me the Usurped status and now I can't use the funnest part of my role.

So you suck, whoever you are.

Alright, so after reading closer, I still have the funnest part of my role, but the amount of fun I can have per night is significantly reduced, so, you still suck.
Oh same! I also got that status.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #781 on: March 09, 2025, 01:16:06 am »

This doesn't answer the substance of my question about why you claimed you didn't lose your hat after EuchreJack claimed he destroyed yours.

I made a mistake and overcommitted to the fakeclaim. I said my hat wasn't destroyed because I was hoping to attract Mug actions from would-be tyrants.

I said it's really unlikely that you are the one affecting hats because someone used an ability on me that targets 6 people. I assumed that was yours - are you saying it isn't?
My ability name is a reference to the fact that it allows me to experience what it's like to be mafia. I'm never mafia, I have to use an ability to experience what that's like.

No, that one is mine. I only used that ability on you though.

Why did you only use it on me?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #782 on: March 09, 2025, 01:27:24 am »

I don't want to play on the weekend super hard I have funner things I want to do.

Scumteam is Crystalizedmire, Jim Groovester, and EuchreJack. Boom, game solved, Magma out.
I think this could be close if you're town.

I don't know why Jim is voting you, you're not like a scum Webadict at all who lies to the bitter end. I'm pretty sure you're town Magma that set up some pitfalls for scum to fall onto but it didn't pan out as well as it could. I don't really see you as being partnered with anyone. I'm frankly baffled players would vote such a proactive and scumhunting player, especially early on.

Now that the Jack hat thing is cleared up, I can confirm that I assessed Jack last night and he had 0 hats. Which means his claim of destroying Magma's hat is truthful as he has no hats currently.

I'm not sure Jack is scum here, or at least, they probably didn't kill Sal.

Jim probably didn't kill Sal either.

Imp probably didn't kill Sal.

Agentt probably didn't kill Sal.

NQT...I'm not sure. I'm suspicious of NQT because I tried to modify their role to be a robot, however instead my ability was Disabled. It didn't say my action failed but the flavor text made it obvious that it did. Okay fine, however NQT has stated now that their ability was also Disabled, but also that their action failed. NQT, did it explicitly say your action failed? I know you don't want to say who you targeted, and that is okay, however I find your claim to shrouded in mysteries and questions. You don't seem innocent to me and I think I can say with reasonable confidence that scum Disabled my ability as well as killed Sal.

Players like Krr1sss, Agentt, and Toastercult I am not familiar with at all so I am having a harder time judging them.

I still believe there's probably one (and only one) scum inside the Tric/Vermilion/Agentt Theater chat now with Cat town and gone.

Unlike Krr1ss I don't feel strongly that there's scum between Jim and Magma. I think both being scum is nearly impossible. I think one being scum is probably not true.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #783 on: March 09, 2025, 01:33:33 am »

Why did you only use it on me?

I was expecting to be redirected and I wanted verifiable information. My action has a 1/n probability of success depending on the number of targets I pick. It has other unique effects when used on a single target.

This doesn't answer the substance of my question about why you claimed you didn't lose your hat after EuchreJack claimed he destroyed yours.

I made a mistake and overcommitted to the fakeclaim. I said my hat wasn't destroyed because I was hoping to attract Mug actions from would-be tyrants.

Step 1: Make EuchreJack look like a liar
Step 2: Catch would be hat tyrants

I'm going to have to think really long and hard about whether I buy this. At some point too much lying with ill considered rationale becomes too much to rationalize away.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #784 on: March 09, 2025, 01:34:59 am »

Also, I've had a few and I probably shouldn't play too much more mafia tonight even if drunk mafia is more fun.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #785 on: March 09, 2025, 01:42:55 am »

Krr1ss watched Verm and said Verm didn't target anyone, although it seems the action may have failed? It's not clear either. I'm going to give Krr1ss and Verm the benefit of the doubt right now.

I think Tric or NQT are the likely Sal killer. I also believe at least one is probably mafia.

Some words of encouragement:
Keep compiling that night action list Imp! You're doing great!
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #786 on: March 09, 2025, 01:45:51 am »

I'm not sure what Toastercult did I don't feel like reading until Imp finishes that list. I kind of just have Toastercult in the same space as Verm for me right now.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #787 on: March 09, 2025, 01:47:08 am »

Also, I've had a few and I probably shouldn't play too much more mafia tonight even if drunk mafia is more fun.
What if I told you Jim

I've never been drunk in my life
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #788 on: March 09, 2025, 01:47:12 am »

Disabled modifier to my ability

Toony, tell us more about disabled modifier?

I had never heard of it before.  I thought I had, Mater used a 'locked' modifier in his Board Game mafia and I confused it with 'disabled'.

You made this claim, then later NQT used it once after using failed 2x before and 1x after saying disabled to me.

I focused on the disabled part, thinking locked.

NQT tried to shake me off back to 'failed', innocent or not I dunno.

NQT, why'd you use the term 'disabled' yourself?

Toony what can you add?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #789 on: March 09, 2025, 01:47:36 am »

Also, I've had a few and I probably shouldn't play too much more mafia tonight even if drunk mafia is more fun.
What if I told you Jim

I've never been drunk in my life

Cool, Toony, if true.  Me either.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #790 on: March 09, 2025, 01:48:21 am »

I'm not sure what Toastercult did I don't feel like reading until Imp finishes that list. I kind of just have Toastercult in the same space as Verm for me right now.

Finished except for you!

Will update with you later, here you go:

N1:  Sal dead town

Imp:  Thinks Sal visited N1, leaving stories detailed in reply #551.  Successful blender of Verm's 'negotitations'.  Gained status 'Thread Alpha' (from Sal's once ability?  From somewhere else?), spread it to Verm.

Verm: No action.  Lack of reports of further spread of 'Thread Alpha' supports this.  Reports negotations changed in a beneficial way by Imp's blender (Imp says blender is random!)

Toaster:  No claims about actions

Mater:  Used an ability that lowers the # votes required to lynch by 2, specifically involving hammers (doesn't discuss the regular elim really); Mod's vote count has no evidence of this.  Says "I didn't target anyone" and implies Agent was probably redirected #631.  Got a street fighter video from Jim.  Roleclaim #683:  Is Usurper, "Anyone who targets me with an ability will lose it, and I gain it instead. Although, I don't know what the abilities do."  "I was only targeted by three things last night, two of them being claimed."  "I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat." + "Nah I was lying about that too, I did lose my hat."  Jim says, "learned what ability Magma Mater used during N1 and it's called The Mafia Experience."  "someone used an ability on me that targets 6 people."

Tric: "theater chat was less than useless" + "on top of any communication going silent, causing me to miss submitting an action at all"  Used Bloodstained Sunglasses again after self-voting, gained 2 votes for D2, started D2 with 1.  To Agentt:  "You are welcome to spew all my abilities if you wish. The one good thing is I still have my shotted action."  Recommended to all theatre chat to "just mugging each other was a good idea, and then one of you would have an extra vote today. Or for later if you wanted."  "You're welcome to assess me and realize I don't have any hats. Heck you can steal the hat I have right now, it's completely out of shots".  "revealing all of my role" in theatrechat.  "Agentt offered a good bit more than Skies, but Skies had the perfectly logical reasoning of thinking I might be scum."  Still has hat.

Krr1ss:  "I spent my night action on Verm and saw that he didn't target anyone. At least not successfully" (said before Verm said he did not action)  "What are the chances I got jailed tonight? I am starting to realize that that may make the most sense. My action returned failure and now that I think about it, it would return something else if Verm targeted no one."

Crystal: Lost hat, gained streetfighter ending video as a message.

Jack:  Took Mater's hat/Mater's hat was destroyed.

Jim:  Gained Usurped status, now can't use funniest part of role; still has funnest part but amount of fun per night reduced.  Took CM's hat and sent message featuring M. Bison.  Targeted Mater and set Mater a message.

NQT:  "I was also messed with. My action failed, which was probably due to someone's interference."  Has discussed if should claim who was targeted, has said ability was disabled - may mean failed.  (I'm thinking of Locked from Mater's Board Game mafia; not the same thing, whoops).

Agent:  "The vote on [Mater] is just what the theatre chat decided"  "I do wanna announce I do still town read Magma. Infact I mafia lean my own neighbors. Things are just difficult right now."  "I am vomiting [someone else's terrible opinion, as Mater asked] straight up right now. I don't even know why you would be sussed. Tric is just a very scary person. Immedietley demanded absolute unity in everything we do."  "There are a whole lot more reasons to suspect tric, but at the same time: his idea of restricting who we vote and night actions do ensure if there is a mafia among us they won't be able to act well." "[Theatrechat] kinda just talked about who to vote today, and who to use our powers on."  "One of my ability is to roleblock a person outside of the theatre if they are targeting the theatre ... I targeted Magma with it."  "Magma, if he was attempting to target the théâtre, was blocked.  The aforementioned ability to roleblock has now been suppressed by the Usurped modifier. This makes it so that I can no longer use that ability while the user of Usurp is alive. 3. Someone messed with our hats!!" "Well to prevent any of us from stealing hats from other people, we decided to just steal from each other in rotation. It also helps in having an alibi when someone says their hat got stolen  And looks like the system worked because, something did get stolen. And I would like to hear my neighbours side first before talking more."

Toony: 
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #791 on: March 09, 2025, 01:52:28 am »

Also, I've had a few and I probably shouldn't play too much more mafia tonight even if drunk mafia is more fun.
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Cool, Toony, if true.  Me either.

You don't know what you're missing out on.

Imagine drinking terrible tasting drinks to enter a state of dulled senses, impaired motor and speech control, and reduced inhibitions and the only price you have to pay is feeling like shit the following morning.

It's not worth it.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #792 on: March 09, 2025, 01:58:50 am »

@Imp:
In the flavor my robot device fizzles and crackles before going silent or something and I'm like "darn it broke!" And then it said I took out binoculars to check that Jack had nothing on his head.

Then at the bottom it said in three bold lines that my ability had gained the Disabled modifier, that my action was successful, and that it was 0 hats. It didn't say anywhere that my action failed.

I also noticed that NQT didn't mention Disabled until after I had said that word, I think. As far as I can tell that ability I have is completely unusable until the modifier is removed. Nobody has claimed doing this to me so I assume it was malicious intent of scum. NQT could be innocent in this too of course I would just like some clarity.

Toastercult hasn't claimed anything? I see, thanks for the info so far!
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« Reply #793 on: March 09, 2025, 02:00:13 am »

Why did you only use it on me?

I was expecting to be redirected and I wanted verifiable information. My action has a 1/n probability of success depending on the number of targets I pick. It has other unique effects when used on a single target.

This doesn't answer the substance of my question about why you claimed you didn't lose your hat after EuchreJack claimed he destroyed yours.

I made a mistake and overcommitted to the fakeclaim. I said my hat wasn't destroyed because I was hoping to attract Mug actions from would-be tyrants.

Step 1: Make EuchreJack look like a liar
Step 2: Catch would be hat tyrants

I'm going to have to think really long and hard about whether I buy this. At some point too much lying with ill considered rationale becomes too much to rationalize away.

Forgive my ill rationale, I'm just trying to fit in with the rest of you.  :-[
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)
« Reply #794 on: March 09, 2025, 02:05:25 am »

Also, I've had a few and I probably shouldn't play too much more mafia tonight even if drunk mafia is more fun.

I've had a few as well. It's the weekend, after all. Not sure what else there is to do but get drunk by myself in front of the computer.
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