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[Crystalizedmire]

Yes, I am a Hated Townie. I am hammered at 6 today (7, +1 due to Bloody Sunglasses, -2 due to my action).

Crystal, Magma, Imp, What do you think about Toony?

I've been thinking about it a lot. I guess I like Toony better than before.

Who do you hate then?

I don't hate anyone, just people I scumread.
Scumreading Toony, Jim and Magma. I feel better about Toony and magma. I swear scumreading Jim has nothing to do with the fact that he might've stole my hat.

It's really unlikely that the Street Fighter thing is related to your hat being stolen. I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat. Not saying that Jim didn't take another action to mug you... because of course that is still possible.

The streetfighter ending vid is direct

Magma Mater (0):
TricMagic (0):
Crystalizedmire (0):
VermillionSkies (1): notquitethere
notquitethere (2): TricMagic, TricMagic
Imp (0):
Salvatore Monday (0):
toastercultist (2): notquitethere, Salvadore Monday
EuchreJack (0):
Jim Groovester (0):
ToonyMan (1): Crystalizedmire
The Canadian kitten (5): Magma Mater, Krr1ss, ToonyMan, EuchreJack, Imp
Krr1ss (0):
Agentt (0):

No Execution (0):

9 votes to hammer.

Not Voting (5): VermillionSkies, toastercultist, Jim Groovester, The Canadian kitten, Agentt

If we want a unifying theory that satisfies:
1) notquitethere's idea that there is mafia not voting at the end of the day
2) Agentt's idea that there is at least one mafia voting for The Canadian kitten
3) Krr1ss's idea that there is at least one mafia in ToonyMan, Magma Mater, Jim Groovester

It's possible that toastercultist and ToonyMan are paired. If I recall correctly, ToonyMan's vote on The Canadian kitten was pretty much the decider that got people to switch from toastercultist to The Canadian kitten. Particularly EuchreJack switched to The Canadian kitten because of ToonyMan's vote. If toastercultist is mafia, ToonyMan's chances of being mafia increase dramatically.

Caveat: if toastercultist is town, I think that ToonyMan is town. In this case, I don't think that a mafia ToonyMan switches from one townie to another, especially when the person he switched to was likely to be absent or modkilled. I wouldn't vote for ToonyMan without knowing toastercultist's alignment first.

I've heard this piece of theory multiple times and that is scum is usually the third person on a bandwagon. If this is the case, then this further implicates ToonyMan.

[Crystalizedmire]

Yes, I am a Hated Townie. I am hammered at 6 today (7, +1 due to Bloody Sunglasses, -2 due to my action).

Crystal, Magma, Imp, What do you think about Toony?

I've been thinking about it a lot. I guess I like Toony better than before.

Who do you hate then?

I don't hate anyone, just people I scumread.
Scumreading Toony, Jim and Magma. I feel better about Toony and magma. I swear scumreading Jim has nothing to do with the fact that he might've stole my hat.

It's really unlikely that the Street Fighter thing is related to your hat being stolen. I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat. Not saying that Jim didn't take another action to mug you... because of course that is still possible.

The streetfighter ending vid is direct

-linked to my disappearance of hat.

[Imp]

It's really unlikely that the Street Fighter thing is related to your hat being stolen. I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat. Not saying that Jim didn't take another action to mug you... because of course that is still possible.

I took Magma Matter's hat.

@Imp:
Process everyone's night action claims into an easily readable and coherent list.

Intending to, this is a good game for that.

[Jim Groovester]

It's really unlikely that the Street Fighter thing is related to your hat being stolen. I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat. Not saying that Jim didn't take another action to mug you... because of course that is still possible.

It's directly related.

ToonyMan called it right. I took CM's hat and in the process sent a message featuring M. Bison so CM would know it was me.

I also targeted you and sent you a message. Which video did you receive? I sent you and CM different videos.

I expected I would be redirected or that you would be bussed with somebody and they'd get my video instead, since that's what you claimed. I wanted to test your claim and sending messages along with my actions seemed like a pretty good way to sort out where my actions actually ended up.

So, what gives?

[Krr1ss]

Wait, you can send messages in addition to actions?

[Jim Groovester]

It's an Auto in my role. One message per action.

[Krr1ss]

It's an Auto in my role. One message per action.

Whoa, isn't that fun.

[TricMagic]

There are a whole lot more reasons to suspect tric, but at the same time: his idea of restricting who we vote and night actions do ensure if there is a mafia among us they won't be able to act well.

So, you guys did an entire plan of night actions, and vote actions?

I would like to say this theater chat was less than useless. All my role info extended in a hand of trust, only to have it all slapped away.

This is on top of any communication going silent, causing me to miss submitting an action at all. Well, I can still do this.

TricMagic We all know what's coming, didn't expect it to be two shot right? Well the hats are in fact two shot apparently.

Tric, what's going on?  I bet a lot of probing.  What else and what do you mean about 'any communication going silent'?

You didn't submit action(s) because why exactly?

What's going on from your perspective?  Your attitude towards Agentt today doesn't really feel like 'you checking someone out and then [whatever]' - granted my only private chats with you was thanks to Max and you were maf that game.  Still, I really wanna know your perspective and what you're doing on the levels makes sense to share.

I thought I had 48 hours, not 24. So wake up to apparently the night already over, figuring they'd have answered by then. Nope, no other messages.

[Magma Mater]

It's really unlikely that the Street Fighter thing is related to your hat being stolen. I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat. Not saying that Jim didn't take another action to mug you... because of course that is still possible.

It's directly related.

ToonyMan called it right. I took CM's hat and in the process sent a message featuring M. Bison so CM would know it was me.

I also targeted you and sent you a message. Which video did you receive? I sent you and CM different videos.

I expected I would be redirected or that you would be bussed with somebody and they'd get my video instead, since that's what you claimed. I wanted to test your claim and sending messages along with my actions seemed like a pretty good way to sort out where my actions actually ended up.

So, what gives?

Alright rather than lie further about my role, I'll come clean.
I'm the usurper.
Anyone who targets me with an ability will lose it, and I gain it instead. Although, I don't know what the abilities do.

I'll explain the fakeclaim. I wanted to do two things:
1) Dissuade anyone with a good town ability, such as an inspect, from targeting me and losing that ability. I feel like I achieved that since I was only targeted by three things last night, two of them being claimed.
2) Encourage mafia to target me. Basically, I wanted to make myself a honeypot, where they'd be encouraged to target me with non-lethal abilities in order to mess with the town. I'm not sure whether I achieved this, but we'll see in post-game.

I know that people are going to want to vote for me. But please think hard about the above, and consider whether I would try to AVOID be targeted if I were mafia.

[Krr1ss]

It's really unlikely that the Street Fighter thing is related to your hat being stolen. I also received the Street Fighter video and didn't lose my hat. Not saying that Jim didn't take another action to mug you... because of course that is still possible.

It's directly related.

ToonyMan called it right. I took CM's hat and in the process sent a message featuring M. Bison so CM would know it was me.

I also targeted you and sent you a message. Which video did you receive? I sent you and CM different videos.

I expected I would be redirected or that you would be bussed with somebody and they'd get my video instead, since that's what you claimed. I wanted to test your claim and sending messages along with my actions seemed like a pretty good way to sort out where my actions actually ended up.

So, what gives?

Alright rather than lie further about my role, I'll come clean.
I'm the usurper.
Anyone who targets me with an ability will lose it, and I gain it instead. Although, I don't know what the abilities do.

I'll explain the fakeclaim. I wanted to do two things:
1) Dissuade anyone with a good town ability, such as an inspect, from targeting me and losing that ability. I feel like I achieved that since I was only targeted by three things last night, two of them being claimed.
2) Encourage mafia to target me. Basically, I wanted to make myself a honeypot, where they'd be encouraged to target me with non-lethal abilities in order to mess with the town. I'm not sure whether I achieved this, but we'll see in post-game.

I know that people are going to want to vote for me. But please think hard about the above, and consider whether I would try to AVOID be targeted if I were mafia.

You would, I assume.

Anyway, that ability sounds fun hmm. What about Mug? It doesn't count? Since people keep saying they stole or destroyed your hat

[Krr1ss]

Also, tbh, I don't vibe with your point 2) simply because scum can spin random wheel and it's better. Hell, they also remove risk of it backfiring on them then

[Imp]

There are a whole lot more reasons to suspect tric, but at the same time: his idea of restricting who we vote and night actions do ensure if there is a mafia among us they won't be able to act well.

So, you guys did an entire plan of night actions, and vote actions?

I would like to say this theater chat was less than useless. All my role info extended in a hand of trust, only to have it all slapped away.

This is on top of any communication going silent, causing me to miss submitting an action at all. Well, I can still do this.

TricMagic We all know what's coming, didn't expect it to be two shot right? Well the hats are in fact two shot apparently.

Tric, what's going on?  I bet a lot of probing.  What else and what do you mean about 'any communication going silent'?

You didn't submit action(s) because why exactly?

What's going on from your perspective?  Your attitude towards Agentt today doesn't really feel like 'you checking someone out and then [whatever]' - granted my only private chats with you was thanks to Max and you were maf that game.  Still, I really wanna know your perspective and what you're doing on the levels makes sense to share.

I thought I had 48 hours, not 24. So wake up to apparently the night already over, figuring they'd have answered by then. Nope, no other messages.

... Game to Tric.

Night 1 started, PST on 3-5-25 at about 7:52 PM.

Night 1 ended, PST, on 3-7-25 at about 7:57 PM.

That's approximately 48 hours.

And about 24 hours longer than we were told to expect initially.

Yadayada didn't submit actions despite apparently planning out the actions of 2 people beside yourself - whatever, that's your claim.  Yes I'd like to hear more but I asked far more than just about that.

What are you doing?  Anything that your wincon benefits to discuss?  I want to know your perspective and what you're doing on whatever levels make sense to share.

The answer you provided is... voteable.  Huh?  Hello?  Remember, if you're town, I need you.  If you're going to claim towny secret or 'theatrekid secret' or whatever, you skip alot of 'the heck you're doing' if you outright claim that - then I measure you by those standards (and you may die for it, those are very special and rarely to be used standards in my eyes - I used them in Mater's last hosted game).  You're not even discussing your perspective?  The flip you doing.

[Krr1ss]

What are the chances I got jailed tonight? I am starting to realize that that may make the most sense. My action returned failure and now that I think about it, it would return something else if Verm targeted no one.

Maybe that also explains others "not doing any actions". Maybe they did it on me?

[Krr1ss]

There are a whole lot more reasons to suspect tric, but at the same time: his idea of restricting who we vote and night actions do ensure if there is a mafia among us they won't be able to act well.

So, you guys did an entire plan of night actions, and vote actions?

I would like to say this theater chat was less than useless. All my role info extended in a hand of trust, only to have it all slapped away.

This is on top of any communication going silent, causing me to miss submitting an action at all. Well, I can still do this.

TricMagic We all know what's coming, didn't expect it to be two shot right? Well the hats are in fact two shot apparently.

Tric, what's going on?  I bet a lot of probing.  What else and what do you mean about 'any communication going silent'?

You didn't submit action(s) because why exactly?

What's going on from your perspective?  Your attitude towards Agentt today doesn't really feel like 'you checking someone out and then [whatever]' - granted my only private chats with you was thanks to Max and you were maf that game.  Still, I really wanna know your perspective and what you're doing on the levels makes sense to share.

I thought I had 48 hours, not 24. So wake up to apparently the night already over, figuring they'd have answered by then. Nope, no other messages.

... Game to Tric.

Night 1 started, PST on 3-5-25 at about 7:52 PM.

Night 1 ended, PST, on 3-7-25 at about 7:57 PM.

That's approximately 48 hours.

And about 24 hours longer than we were told to expect initially.

Yadayada didn't submit actions despite apparently planning out the actions of 2 people beside yourself - whatever, that's your claim.  Yes I'd like to hear more but I asked far more than just about that.

What are you doing?  Anything that your wincon benefits to discuss?  I want to know your perspective and what you're doing on whatever levels make sense to share.

The answer you provided is... voteable.  Huh?  Hello?  Remember, if you're town, I need you.  If you're going to claim towny secret or 'theatrekid secret' or whatever, you skip alot of 'the heck you're doing' if you outright claim that - then I measure you by those standards (and you may die for it, those are very special and rarely to be used standards in my eyes - I used them in Mater's last hosted game).  You're not even discussing your perspective?  The flip you doing.

Btw Imp, if you aren't interacting with me again, I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention and I want to make up for that.

[Imp]

Btw Imp, if you aren't interacting with me again, I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention and I want to make up for that.

We're fine and this game is still going on.  You're one of 10 players I'm tracking and I do think you're fairly townie.

I absolutely hate your move towards stacking more votes on Mater, be you a townie who thinks that's a good idea to see who else wanted to play your game/take risks, or any other role.

Your 'joking' 'don'tcha wanna anyway' post in reply to mine saying don't is something I do not appreciate.  Period.  I made that clear BEFORE you made your post.  I explained why I thought that was a bad idea to do BEFORE you made your 'wanna' reply.

We currently are down to 1 vote on Mater, I think.  That's quite safe-seeming.  Game goes on.  If you didn't notice, we have 2 town dead and no maf yet.  Maybe that makes you feel relaxed and playful - I'm still playing but we only have so many ML and unknown quantities of power.  It doesn't even take anti-town to storm the wagon, a few clueless townies can do so just fine.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I well remember this:

I believe this is the current vote count.

Oliverz144:
Maximum Spin: [1] Imp,
CrystalizedMire:
sofanthiel:
NJW2000:
Imp: [1] Maximum Spin,

Hmm...

Not much time and about to go to bed, posting after one read-through.

Imp seems panicky but I'm honestly not sure if I can read them. Still don't trust Max but the mechanical evidence is on his side. Strong showing from Oliverz but not enough to conclude they're town, just that they're a pretty decent player.

Need to read through again to actually understand this, will have to wait for ~9 hours, sorry about that.

Please don't hammer in my absence.

Bleeping clueless townie 1:

And does it matter that you're not answering Oliver either?

...

wait what
what does this mean

0_0

Imp

Here's the anti-town that game sliding neatly into place:

I think we can deal with Maximum Spin later. So Imp, why do think that Quarque is so opposed to the idea of you having a scumbuddy?

Bleeping clueless townie 2 - I claimed miller (inspects as mafia) first post of D1 - I was town that legit inspect as mafia

IMP
Voting a red check

The only thing I can do:

That's hammer, of course.  I presume we're allowed to bah post.  vent vent yay.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efE_3ukJVWg

It's not about if I die.  I need today, all of town does to figure out what goes on.  I am not happy, calm, pleased, joking, any of it.  Don't mess with my wincon, and if I say "I don't want X" you will learn that I take it as an insult if you come up and offer me X and say I wanna using any language style at all.  You -can- teach me that I actually like X.  It's quite hard to do and takes finesse.  Your timing sucks, your strat is sus, and I don't know you well out of this game either.

We are talking.  But I am playing this game.  And you hit a button on me.  I don't exist to please you.  I will feel and behave as I do for my own reasons.  You will learn and adjust or not.