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Author Topic: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)  (Read 13142 times)

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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #450 on: March 05, 2025, 05:25:28 pm »

You guys should explore that as I believe that town knowing what they can expect each other will help us overwhelmingly more then just everyone hiding what they can do and not being cooperative enough to help scum who likely have much stronger abilities, won't miss probably, and are cooperating to boost each other

Mixed bag in these games.  As in, every game is built so different, and every role, that sometimes pro-town sharing info helps town hugely, sometimes it helps anti-town hugely, and sometimes different people have different needs.

Like the last game here, the one Mater hosted.  My town role needed complete secrecy.  Mafia had so incredibly many ways to mess town up and I had a secret but messible-up power... plus I needed to live to end game (In case town lost) to save the day.  That too needed secrecy.

And I had one ability that self targeted, and maf had many ways (even if they had to be creative to figure them out) to prevent self-targeting me from ever acting again (until they should have won; if they let me live that long, I'd have been freer than superfree and coming for their heads... hopefully no more than 2 maf heads left then or town's still gonna lose... probably.  But a huge advantage to hide like heck what I was doing, could do, couldn't do, all of it.

Town repeatedly investigated me (that's fine) and reported my actions (not cool at all, there's bleepin' maf listening!  And they can figure stuff out and I have... one terrifying pattern that is the only thing I can do, and I'm as dead as dead if they hit me before I unlock one specific thing, and then they just need to kill me twice).

People (some maf) pushed like heck to find out if I was roleblocked when they expected me to be (I wasn't, I was immune to roleblock, but also getting hit with other stuff I was so not immune to).  I wasn't about to reveal anything; if maf want to pepper me with roleblocks I want them to, as many as they wanna waste - that's fewer used on my fellow town, great.

So I treated all that game as me being a townie secret, regardless of how unhappy that made my fellow players (It was not enjoyed, but hey, town won, and I didn't even need to go super 'you think you won?  Oh no.  The game has finally begun' - we actually won normally, though it was close, went to final 3).

Other games, I am very open about what I'm doing or can't do.

It's always a calculated risk though.  There could be anti-town waiting to hear something they can use.  And they may be able to use it better for them than any townie can for town.  But that's game-specific and perhaps more often role specific in B12.  So, each player tends to be more open or not.

You've been open about needing/wanting info and wanting cooperation; you've warned about the risk of benefit to maf.  I don't wanna help maf either (I weak town-lean krr1ss, low confidence, that's gonna be easier for me once I have more meta on you - so far I know you only as a very interesting and enjoyable host for a game that ended way too soon, not even end of D1, alas.  But I like you... and have no idea how you play as maf or town, I didn't even get to deep dive your host-ness because you didn't make the game you hosted, right?) but I'm pretty open to cooperation and being helped as well as helping.  Got all my blenders busy tonight though already, got a precious... whatever it is... to see if I can 'mend' into survivability with one of my favorite players, Verm.

I remember you asked me not to touch your abilities; I'll mention that I don't just randomize abilities (and that's a rather extreme thing that could be awful, randomizing could do anything to any degree.).  I can do far more controlled stuff, like set them up to 'grow' and do more besides (that cannot possibly save Verm with what he described - would maybe make his situation vastly worse - but our God knows much and this is surely, clearly, designed - based on what Verm said, this is literally the only way I can think of to maybe have to help his situation.  Thanks, God!  I am grateful, God!  May all that happens always please you!).

Sounds like a fun game!

Ah, King's Gambit, I made myself. The idea was mine, and most of the roles's intentions were mine either. Baldingere and our advisor Osieorb only helped me refine the idea, most things stayed as I imagined them to be. You can say that I drew the snowman roughly and then together with the two of them, tapped (like when you tap snow so it looks smooth) it into the beautiful snowman it turned out to be. But the shape, color, foundation, and original were all my idea.

Anyway, hope it helps Verm.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #451 on: March 05, 2025, 05:30:18 pm »

Wait, who tf is Cat. Kitten?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #452 on: March 05, 2025, 05:35:06 pm »

Ah, King's Gambit, I made myself. The idea was mine, and most of the roles's intentions were mine either. Baldingere and our advisor Osieorb only helped me refine the idea, most things stayed as I imagined them to be. You can say that I drew the snowman roughly and then together with the two of them, tapped (like when you tap snow so it looks smooth) it into the beautiful snowman it turned out to be. But the shape, color, foundation, and original were all my idea.

Oh wow!  I remembered having asked and was told the game was someone else's... wonder if I dreamed that.  Delighted to meet the mind that designed it and its ruleset!  Love how you handled claims especially :P  Especially inviting me to claim if I chose then reminding me that there is anti-claim :D  Happily I was aware/read your rules... that one at least!

Wait, who tf is Cat. Kitten?

The Canadian Kitten, tCK http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=125371
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #453 on: March 05, 2025, 05:39:30 pm »

Ah, King's Gambit, I made myself. The idea was mine, and most of the roles's intentions were mine either. Baldingere and our advisor Osieorb only helped me refine the idea, most things stayed as I imagined them to be. You can say that I drew the snowman roughly and then together with the two of them, tapped (like when you tap snow so it looks smooth) it into the beautiful snowman it turned out to be. But the shape, color, foundation, and original were all my idea.

Oh wow!  I remembered having asked and was told the game was someone else's... wonder if I dreamed that.  Delighted to meet the mind that designed it and its ruleset!  Love how you handled claims especially :P  Especially inviting me to claim if I chose then reminding me that there is anti-claim :D  Happily I was aware/read your rules... that one at least!

Wait, who tf is Cat. Kitten?

The Canadian Kitten, tCK http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=125371
Ah, the anticlaim idea was suggested by our advisor. I wanted to have it be more fluid and creative (I was so excited to see Urist abuse that), as in, claiming makes you a pawn, but after a series of changes and considerations, Baldingere and me ended on this version.

Also thanks for the answer.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #454 on: March 05, 2025, 05:49:27 pm »

As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
N/A
NULL:
Urist
Weak Scum Leans:
N/A
Strong Scum Leans:
N/A
Scum Reads:
N/A

Feel free to ignore this post, I am too lazy to make notes. This can also be used for you guys to question me or smth, idk.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #455 on: March 05, 2025, 05:50:05 pm »

As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
N/A
NULL:
Urist
Weak Scum Leans:
N/A
Strong Scum Leans:
N/A
Scum Reads:
N/A

Feel free to ignore this post, I am too lazy to make notes. This can also be used for you guys to question me or smth, idk.
Boy, did Crystal yap things that are alignment indicative.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Restaurant Standoff (14 / 14)
« Reply #456 on: March 05, 2025, 05:51:18 pm »

Ah, Crystalised Mire, I absolutely wasn't implying you were lying. I was talking about our host when I said this has to be a troll. I also thought it is possible there is no investigative role in this game.

Games here can be ... well. It's best to know the mod.  Like Tricmagic ran a game with these roles:


In a FBYOR, I think there's a chance that the game's well designed to capture the comprehended intent and preferences of the requesting player, and also to be balanced to be well playable by all.  I'd be surprised if we have no investigators (plus we have some claims of that), but if we are without, then the game's designed to be played well without.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Restaurant Standoff (14 / 14)
« Reply #457 on: March 05, 2025, 06:30:13 pm »

Ah, Crystalised Mire, I absolutely wasn't implying you were lying. I was talking about our host when I said this has to be a troll. I also thought it is possible there is no investigative role in this game.

Games here can be ... well. It's best to know the mod.  Like Tricmagic ran a game with these roles:


In a FBYOR, I think there's a chance that the game's well designed to capture the comprehended intent and preferences of the requesting player, and also to be balanced to be well playable by all.  I'd be surprised if we have no investigators (plus we have some claims of that), but if we are without, then the game's designed to be played well without.

I haven't even reached your ISO and I am already considering skipping it. How about putting some of your posts into sections as:
Non Read related stuff:
here we yap about something like a past game for fun.
Read related stuff:
Here you explain things related to the current game.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #458 on: March 05, 2025, 06:58:40 pm »

As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
N/A
NULL:
Urist
Weak Scum Leans:
N/A
Strong Scum Leans:
N/A
Scum Reads:
N/A

Feel free to ignore this post, I am too lazy to make notes. This can also be used for you guys to question me or smth, idk.
Boy, did Crystal yap things that are alignment indicative.

It's funny because I totally agree, but came to the opposite conclusion.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #459 on: March 05, 2025, 06:59:43 pm »

Ah, Crystalised Mire, I absolutely wasn't implying you were lying. I was talking about our host when I said this has to be a troll. I also thought it is possible there is no investigative role in this game.

Games here can be ... well. It's best to know the mod.  Like Tricmagic ran a game with these roles:


In a FBYOR, I think there's a chance that the game's well designed to capture the comprehended intent and preferences of the requesting player, and also to be balanced to be well playable by all.  I'd be surprised if we have no investigators (plus we have some claims of that), but if we are without, then the game's designed to be played well without.

I haven't even reached your ISO and I am already considering skipping it. How about putting some of your posts into sections as:
Non Read related stuff:
here we yap about something like a past game for fun.
Read related stuff:
Here you explain things related to the current game.

See there I answer a post of Agentt's?

You can read it or not.  I'm literally answering Agentt.

Remember this?

Okay, this is unironically very useful info. Thank you

You need your own filter, I can't read any mind but my own.  I try to be clear and when I talk to multiple people or say very key things inside a post, I try to bold it.

But this is how I talk.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #460 on: March 05, 2025, 07:06:06 pm »

As of ISO:
Town Reads:
Crystal
Strong Town Leans:
Tric
Weak Town Leans:
N/A
NULL:
Urist
Weak Scum Leans:
N/A
Strong Scum Leans:
N/A
Scum Reads:
N/A

Feel free to ignore this post, I am too lazy to make notes. This can also be used for you guys to question me or smth, idk.
Boy, did Crystal yap things that are alignment indicative.

It's funny because I totally agree, but came to the opposite conclusion.
Funny indeed. Can you explain how you reached that conclusion?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #461 on: March 05, 2025, 07:07:06 pm »

Ah, Crystalised Mire, I absolutely wasn't implying you were lying. I was talking about our host when I said this has to be a troll. I also thought it is possible there is no investigative role in this game.

Games here can be ... well. It's best to know the mod.  Like Tricmagic ran a game with these roles:


In a FBYOR, I think there's a chance that the game's well designed to capture the comprehended intent and preferences of the requesting player, and also to be balanced to be well playable by all.  I'd be surprised if we have no investigators (plus we have some claims of that), but if we are without, then the game's designed to be played well without.

I haven't even reached your ISO and I am already considering skipping it. How about putting some of your posts into sections as:
Non Read related stuff:
here we yap about something like a past game for fun.
Read related stuff:
Here you explain things related to the current game.

See there I answer a post of Agentt's?

You can read it or not.  I'm literally answering Agentt.

Remember this?

Okay, this is unironically very useful info. Thank you

You need your own filter, I can't read any mind but my own.  I try to be clear and when I talk to multiple people or say very key things inside a post, I try to bold it.

But this is how I talk.

Ah no, you are right, I just said it because I forgot all your posts and when I remembered there being walls I just said that preemptively. I still didn't check it. It's last in fact I think.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #462 on: March 05, 2025, 07:11:33 pm »

Magma Mater you are probably right about The Canadian Kitten
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14) - 1 Replacement Requested
« Reply #463 on: March 05, 2025, 07:19:14 pm »

Magma Mater you are probably right about The Canadian Kitten

Why do you say that?
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« Reply #464 on: March 05, 2025, 07:23:29 pm »

Lost most of my day to the Monster Hunter Pitfall. Where we at?
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