Toaster, you latch onto Jack very quick, it's your first post. You tell us about how you've played before, about voting after everyone says what they want. How much does what Jack says/does look like typical play from games you know, is common scum-tactics?
I like the point you make, sort of. My first read of it, I kinda nodded along. Nice opener, the way people interact with its mix of logic and illogic - could be a very townie thing to probe! But, trying to wrap my head around it - because that's not an opener, an RVS thingy. You mean it, near as I can tell. But you also kinda probe and try to get ideas/interaction? "Is it just me, or does this feel extremely suspicious?" Is that sort of tentative style your normal way to talk as well? I don't see much of it in the rest of what you've said so far, so I'm really curious.
And I note that those who disagree with you, you confront. You were not just... honestly checking how people think. You're chasing this, you want this.
I currently have a fear that maybe you and Mater are teamed anti-town, and Jack is anything but on your team. I can see a 'flip Jack, then say Mater must be fine since Jack was [whatever but not your team]'. That's totally ignoring Mater individually, I haven't deep-read him yet (Difficult day. So far I'm deep read on Sal and Jim and now you). But I'd love to hear more about your thoughts about what you see.
You bounce between,
An unconfirmed roleclaim doesn't really warrant not taking actions on Magma at all, and this could really benefit Mafia if Magma was mafia.
And because EuchreJack may be trying to cause this, I'll vote him.
And:
Because Magma roleclaiming in and of itself isn't that suspicious, but Jack coming to his conclusion is. So Jack is more suspicious than Magma, and might just be roping Magma into this.
I'm really confused about your thinking here. Magma either is or isn't maf. If he is or isn't, Jack either is or isn't.
If Magma ISN'T maf. Can you see a maf Jack saying what he said?
If Jack isn't maf (or other teamed anti-town) with Magma, can you see Jack saying what he said?
I dunno. Toaster, your reasoning works perfect for me if you're teamed anti-town with Magma; you set up for an illusion of 'oh, Jack wasn't teamed with Magma, so Magma's fine too/was always not that sus'. I really need help to get what you're doing and how you think it works.
Currently the two players that catch my attention are of course Tricmagic because of his vote power and Vermilion because of the strange soul power thing.
What does 'catch your attention' mean here? Anything about alignment, or just 'wow, lookie there!'? At the time you commented on Tric's vote power (reply #241), NQT had already started the game with 2 votes. Did you miss that, or it's not interesting why, compared to Tric's?
Think what you want about me, but I'm going to be really stubborn on the EuchreJack and Magma Mater issue. It's one of the only actual pieces of evidence that we have on day 1, and the night game's complexity could be lessened if we got it over with and investigated Magma first thing instead of avoiding it till we have no choice.
As someone (I forgot who) said, this is a perfect excuse for the mafia to not get read, and the extra complexity with the bussing sounds like it was hastily added in to make it seem plausible.
stares Yeah. I don't feel safer. And... how is this
evidence and not supposition?
We have
evidence that Tric has bloodstained sunglasses, our mod said so. We have evidence both Tric and NQT have 2 votes today. What are you doing/thinking/mean?
The goal of 'investigate Mater anyway' can be discussed. But that too can benefit anti-town. Because if investigations are going towards a known target, this may be usable for anyone who wants to control where they go. I expect each player who can investigate's gonna make their own decisions about what to do (same as everyone who can't investigate).
I mostly agree with this list, probably since I'm too lazy to form coherent opinions on all 14 people here.
Yeah. You're... not really focusing on anything except the one issue you picked in your first post, right? And that Tric (but why not NQT?) and Verm catch your attention, whatever that means. I would really like to understand more about what the game looks like from your eyes.
Anyway, every time I see a long post, I eagerly scan to see if my post had been quoted cuz I dearly love my sections but I never see them ;(
Hi! Well, if life ever lets me catch up on the game better (it surely will?) I will probably quote you more often. Good to know you appreciate it, here, have some dopamine,
Krr1ss!
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