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[toastercultist]

Sorry in advance, I'm writing this sleepy and tired, so I may not be able to explain things as well. I'll clarify later if you want.

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Think what you want about me, but I'm going to be really stubborn on the EuchreJack and Magma Mater issue. It's one of the only actual pieces of evidence that we have on day 1, and the night game's complexity could be lessened if we got it over with and investigated Magma first thing instead of avoiding it till we have no choice.
As someone (I forgot who) said, this is a perfect excuse for the mafia to not get read, and the extra complexity with the bussing sounds like it was hastily added in to make it seem plausible.

If this is what you think then why are you voting for EuchreJack and not me? I think you're getting your reasoning wrapped around in your head.

This entire act is suspicious to me, but as I said the roleclaim wasn't suspicious on its own. EuchreJack's suggestion was. Voting the person who was suggested to be left alone would mean mafia could direct suspicion on anyone by pretending to support them this way.

[Agentt]

I did confirm with host that this game has 24/7 mafia chat.

Does this site has a culture or tutoring? Like you think every response from mafia would be a well discussed one or do people not tend to be that try hard here?

24/7 mafia chats always give me that paranoia...

Not really. If I were mafia I'd probably just tell my partner to post lots and vote for town. Many people aren't online often enough to have deep discussions like that anyway.

Aye, the normal case then. This reminds me of a game where we caught mafia because two players posted the same opinion at the same time and the town went, "did you two just talked about this on the mafia chat"

[Agentt]

Hello Imp.

You aren't being scary yet which kinda makes me suspect you are trying to pocket me...

It's a wild bias to say you are scary hence you are mafia and you aren't being scary hence you are mafia.

But yes, thank you for the consideration. I shall depend on host mainly for my anxiety.

As for your help umm..
o.o
I guess I'll ask you the same question that was asked of me,

How are you as a mafia?

[The Canadian kitten]

Canadian seemed the most towny to me, weird

Yeah that is weird. Why did you read him as town?

Not Krr1ss but TCK's 3 posts are fine to pretty good. I remembered them as being better than what they were but there's nothing scummy about them. TCK has a good question in his first post, his second post was meh, and his third post is fine and a truthful response. He tends to activelurk so I didn't read into his behaviour that much.
Why do you read them as scum? I assume it's the third post that you found suspicious otherwise you would've voted him before.

Canadian kitten has twice written posts from a mafia perspective:
1) He is unable to see the benefit to me claiming my role. From his point of view, it would be a good way to mess up mafia (his) actions. The way I see it, his opinion is that I've misplayed by revealing too much to him too early. He told me that he thought I had misplayed, but wasn't able to justify that belief when challenged (because he can't reveal that he knows I'm town).
2) Isn't able to tell that EuchreJack's attack on him is terrible, because he knows that EuchreJack is town. From his perspective, a town who attacks a mafia must have valid reasoning behind it, so EuchreJack's attack on him must be valid.

Pfp
Man, i am really going to disappoint you if you're actually town
For point #2 though, is the theoretical correct town response to EJ accusation be that I am suppose to put in equal effort of explaining my reasoning? Call it terrible, invalid, needs to be done better? I really don't see what is the appropriate response to an attack I saw that simply needed clarification to my reasoning. If that makes sense?

[Agentt]

Quoting on this site is difficult...I'll do it when I am at leisure.

In the games I have played with Urist, he was very laid-back, which I understand since he wasn't trying to take those games seriously I believe.

So it's very nice to see him active,
I haven't looked at all the posts yet, but I do like his carefree attitude.

While Kriss does seem very tensed up, I feel like a newbie mafia like him would be much more prone to hiding and not standing out. So he is in good light as well.

And I can't help but be pocketed by people hah...

[Agentt]

I also wanted to ask how common Scum Theatre is here. Can we expect Urist-Toaster or Kriss-Canadian or like to just be mafia fighting amongst themselves to show they aren't paired?

[notquitethere]

I also wanted to ask how common Scum Theatre is here. Can we expect Urist-Toaster or Kriss-Canadian or like to just be mafia fighting amongst themselves to show they aren't paired?

It really depends. Sometimes there's heavy distancing amd bussing between scum players, but often they just remain noncommittal towards each other.

[Agentt]

I also wanted to ask how common Scum Theatre is here. Can we expect Urist-Toaster or Kriss-Canadian or like to just be mafia fighting amongst themselves to show they aren't paired?

It really depends. Sometimes there's heavy distancing amd bussing between scum players, but often they just remain noncommittal towards each other.

My love life :<

But okay, thank you.

[Krr1ss]

Canadian seemed the most towny to me, weird

Yeah that is weird. Why did you read him as town?

Not Krr1ss but TCK's 3 posts are fine to pretty good. I remembered them as being better than what they were but there's nothing scummy about them. TCK has a good question in his first post, his second post was meh, and his third post is fine and a truthful response. He tends to activelurk so I didn't read into his behaviour that much.
Why do you read them as scum? I assume it's the third post that you found suspicious otherwise you would've voted him before.

Canadian kitten has twice written posts from a mafia perspective:
1) He is unable to see the benefit to me claiming my role. From his point of view, it would be a good way to mess up mafia (his) actions. The way I see it, his opinion is that I've misplayed by revealing too much to him too early. He told me that he thought I had misplayed, but wasn't able to justify that belief when challenged (because he can't reveal that he knows I'm town).
2) Isn't able to tell that EuchreJack's attack on him is terrible, because he knows that EuchreJack is town. From his perspective, a town who attacks a mafia must have valid reasoning behind it, so EuchreJack's attack on him must be valid.

Omg! Urist! You are my damn teacher! The last game I played, I made the same read as your 2). Granted, it was wrong, but I still believe that the logic behind it is awesome! Wanna see the post? Lemme find it.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2659&start=400#p1126334

[Krr1ss]

Canadian seemed the most towny to me, weird

Yeah that is weird. Why did you read him as town?

Not Krr1ss but TCK's 3 posts are fine to pretty good. I remembered them as being better than what they were but there's nothing scummy about them. TCK has a good question in his first post, his second post was meh, and his third post is fine and a truthful response. He tends to activelurk so I didn't read into his behaviour that much.
Why do you read them as scum? I assume it's the third post that you found suspicious otherwise you would've voted him before.

Canadian kitten has twice written posts from a mafia perspective:
1) He is unable to see the benefit to me claiming my role. From his point of view, it would be a good way to mess up mafia (his) actions. The way I see it, his opinion is that I've misplayed by revealing too much to him too early. He told me that he thought I had misplayed, but wasn't able to justify that belief when challenged (because he can't reveal that he knows I'm town).
2) Isn't able to tell that EuchreJack's attack on him is terrible, because he knows that EuchreJack is town. From his perspective, a town who attacks a mafia must have valid reasoning behind it, so EuchreJack's attack on him must be valid.

Omg! Urist! You are my damn teacher! The last game I played, I made the same read as your 2). Granted, it was wrong, but I still believe that the logic behind it is awesome! Wanna see the post? Lemme find it.

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2659&start=400#p1126334

I even mentioned you, although not by name

[Krr1ss]

Imp I don't want any modifiers. Use it on someone else, kay?

[TricMagic]

I am feeling sick today. Ugh.

[Crystalizedmire]

@Crystalizedmire: I don't like TheCanadianKitten's latest response, but you seem to be hard-defending TheCanadianKitten.  What do you see and/or know that I am missing?

What you're missing is that you're blatantly misinterpreting the post.
The Canadian Kitten was simply worried that the discussion will revolve around Magmamater's role since it was so early in disscussion.
TCK said that lying is bad for town in the second post.
There is no contradiction.

I get the feeling that Crystalizedmire is mafia. You should know my style by now. Can you tell me why I find her suspicious?

Not Imp but I'm going to take a guess at this. If you think that TCK is scum and that I'm defending him, then you'll think that I'm scum as well. Also, you mentioned that he is scum because Canadian Kitten responded politely to a post that sucked, then the same logic must also apply to me. There's also the fact that I reacted defensively to one of Agentt's posts.

[Krr1ss]

Agentt, Kitten, Crystal are probably not all scum. I refuse to believe that they would all powerwolf so openly.

[Crystalizedmire]

[A being which has never been looks down at a man without a cap.]

Jim Groovester

A little too late for rvs, don't you think?

I did confirm with host that this game has 24/7 mafia chat.

Does this site has a culture or tutoring? Like you think every response from mafia would be a well discussed one or do people not tend to be that try hard here?

24/7 mafia chats always give me that paranoia...

You'll be surprised at the lack of long term planning in mafia chat when you roll mafia in bay12forum.
Also, have you answered my question here?:

NQT for looking like they are fishing for roles!

Though fishing for roles doesn't really matter in a game where everyone is PR.

Hold on, I'm not actually seeing evidence of role fishing. Can you please point me to signs of role fishing?

Agentt, Kitten, Crystal are probably not all scum. I refuse to believe that they would all powerwolf so openly.

I'm not familiar with the term. What does it mean?