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Author Topic: FBYOR 7 - Day 2 - Ineffable (12 / 14)  (Read 13141 times)

TricMagic

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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #285 on: March 04, 2025, 04:46:29 pm »

3 pages today, so can go through everything in eveningtime. Then back to Monster Hunter Wilds.

Salvator, I know you're playing with restriction but I am tempted to vote you out simply to not have to deal with said restriction. Or Toony's nonsense.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #286 on: March 04, 2025, 05:05:50 pm »

Btw, I just wanna mention on how we probably shouldn't rely on role->alignment reads because my hat and role are scum sided and yet I randed town. In fact, my role would be double as powerful as scum.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #287 on: March 04, 2025, 05:10:21 pm »

The easy gut reads
Agentt - my buddy
Imp - my other buddy
Vermilion - good dude, fell down stairs

The good dudes
S Monday - feels good dude, anybody want to vote them is bad dude
toastercultist - pretty good dude
Krr1ss - need to look at again, feel like good dude though
The Canada Cat - meow

The dangerous if bad guy
Magma - I hope is good dude, has made my favorite points out of everyone in the game so far. Chance of going for hat win = 42%.
NQT - Tric no like, probably good dude. Chance of going for hat win = 50%
Jim - I like this post. I feel similarly to Jim in most areas (and most importantly I think his read on me being as interested as him in the game is very on point) so probably good dude. Chance of going for hat win = 69.69%

People I'm less sure about
Jack - I feel like they're patting me and Magma on the back...chance of going for hat win also feels very low, why is this?
Crystal - I don't like them voting S.Monday for their posting style

The enemy
Tric - bad guy or wrong about everything, desire to hat win = 100%

I probably vote Jack the most right now. Tric probably isn't a good vote either from my instincts, I think.

@Jack:
Why destroy hats?

@Crystal:
Their posting style doesn't bother me at all, why does it matter?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #288 on: March 04, 2025, 05:22:46 pm »

Well, Toony made their line clear enough.

Toony Toony I just used the hat. Don't blame the player blame the game. If I was going for Hat Victory don't you think I would have saved it to Hatlo?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #289 on: March 04, 2025, 05:37:32 pm »

Probably Town: Imp, Toastercultist
Maybe Town: Jim, Crystal
Theater Kids: Tric, Skies, Cat, Agent T. Krr1ss.
Maybe Mafia: Jack, Magma, NQT
Probably Mafia: Toony, , Salvadore

On thoughts, missing Krr1ss from this shorthand list. Eh you can go into Theater.
... On Active Crystal, Mafia Crystal seems a bit aloof when I played with them, so wouldn't an active Crystal mean town?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #290 on: March 04, 2025, 05:42:24 pm »

Probably Town: Imp, Toastercultist
Maybe Town: Jim, Crystal
Theater Kids: Tric, Skies, Cat, Agent T. Krr1ss.
Maybe Mafia: Jack, Magma, NQT
Probably Mafia: Toony, , Salvadore

On thoughts, missing Krr1ss from this shorthand list. Eh you can go into Theater.
... On Active Crystal, Mafia Crystal seems a bit aloof when I played with them, so wouldn't an active Crystal mean town?
Why am I in theater, I am confused. Wait, why are you yourself in it hahahah
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #291 on: March 04, 2025, 06:03:59 pm »

Cause I don't have a good read on you. Join us in rehearsals~
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #292 on: March 04, 2025, 06:07:29 pm »

I'm not sure if Salvatore Monday is scum or not. But I have two reasons why I want them alive for day2:
1. If they are mafia and we eliminate them, then it'll mean that we gained less information from their flip than any other flip.
2. I want to see more of their play before we eliminate them. I've played with them once and they barely talked in that one so I want to see them talk in day2.

Neither of these are particularly good reasons.

I believe Salvatore Monday is choosing to post like this, either because he's a dillweed or he has some sort of voluntary post restriction as part of his role that probably gives him some absolutely inconsequential bonus and it would most likely be in his and his team's best interest to stop chasing that. So giving him leniency is silly from that perspective.

The first point is silly because believing that town can choose a more informative lynch over the most evident one is not likely to happen.
Oh okay. I guess I'm more open to a Slavatore Monday elimination now.
@Crystal:
Their posting style doesn't bother me at all, why does it matter?
I wasn't voting Salvatore Monday for their posting style, I was voting them for not contributing to the conversation at all. It was hard to tell why they're suspicious of someone and they barely indicated any suspicion of anyone at all.
Additional to Magma's criticisms: TheCanadianKitten seemed OK with being attacked. Most town players are giant babies that throw tantrums and immediately vote anyone that attacks them. I should know...
I dunno. He always seemed kind of meek to me and definitely not the type to have tantrums over a single vote.
Jim feel good now they post. Jim probably desire hats.
[A being which has never been nods in general agreement.]
Nod if the reason you're voting Jim is that he desires hats.
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Krr1ss

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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #293 on: March 04, 2025, 06:11:37 pm »

Cause I don't have a good read on you. Join us in rehearsals~
rehearsals?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #294 on: March 04, 2025, 06:16:22 pm »

All four of us are in an alignment unconfirmed night chat.
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #295 on: March 04, 2025, 06:17:56 pm »

All four of us are in an alignment unconfirmed night chat.
Oh nice, can I get an invite somehow
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #296 on: March 04, 2025, 06:27:23 pm »

I've had a very busy day, I actually got scammed today and had to deal with that for hours.  Bah, if I can't detect IRL scum...  Well I'll still do all I can here.

Where dunce cap

Who dunce cap

I want my fucking dunce cap back.

But:

Claim: I have an ability that can destroy a hat. Knowing Fallacy, one of you probably has a "cursed" hat of "screw the wearer".

So, if anyone wants their hat destroyed, let me know.

I endorse you destroying hats as long as you don't destroy any in my possession and if destroying hats reduces the hat requirement for the hat tyrant victory.

Jim, so you actually have your dunce cap? Or, you're actually joking about wanting your dunce cap? Or, you can bring it back if it's destroyed? (Perhaps just if it's not in your possession when destroyed - hey we just had a NQT game where I could recreate specific destroyed objects, that could be a thing here for Jim.) Or I dunno the heck you're doing.  But you maybe want all other players but yourself to lose, noted.  Cause it's fun, surely.

1. If they are mafia and we eliminate them, then it'll mean that we gained less information from their flip than any other flip.
2. I want to see more of their play before we eliminate them. I've played with them once and they barely talked in that one so I want to see them talk in day2.

Crystal, What makes elim of SM less informative than other elims, especially if maf?

My thoughts:  Everyone's interacting back towards SM, even if only to ignore/not discuss.  There's not standard two-way communication, but I absolutely would be okay with elim of a zero poster if I didn't like elim of any of the posters; SM is at worst 'as bad' as a zero-poster in terms of info content.

What are your thoughts?
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #297 on: March 04, 2025, 06:44:22 pm »

I've had a very busy day, I actually got scammed today and had to deal with that for hours.  Bah, if I can't detect IRL scum...  Well I'll still do all I can here.

Where dunce cap

Who dunce cap

I want my fucking dunce cap back.

But:

Claim: I have an ability that can destroy a hat. Knowing Fallacy, one of you probably has a "cursed" hat of "screw the wearer".

So, if anyone wants their hat destroyed, let me know.

I endorse you destroying hats as long as you don't destroy any in my possession and if destroying hats reduces the hat requirement for the hat tyrant victory.

Jim, so you actually have your dunce cap? Or, you're actually joking about wanting your dunce cap? Or, you can bring it back if it's destroyed? (Perhaps just if it's not in your possession when destroyed - hey we just had a NQT game where I could recreate specific destroyed objects, that could be a thing here for Jim.) Or I dunno the heck you're doing.  But you maybe want all other players but yourself to lose, noted.  Cause it's fun, surely.

1. If they are mafia and we eliminate them, then it'll mean that we gained less information from their flip than any other flip.
2. I want to see more of their play before we eliminate them. I've played with them once and they barely talked in that one so I want to see them talk in day2.

Crystal, What makes elim of SM less informative than other elims, especially if maf?

My thoughts:  Everyone's interacting back towards SM, even if only to ignore/not discuss.  There's not standard two-way communication, but I absolutely would be okay with elim of a zero poster if I didn't like elim of any of the posters; SM is at worst 'as bad' as a zero-poster in terms of info content.

What are your thoughts?
I'd argue that zero info poster who is allowed to vote and doesn't give any reads at all may be worse than a person who forgot that the game exists. Because if we assume that it's fine for them to keep doing this, town's paranoia for other town is likely to carry them over to the endgame. One correct read is enough for SM (the roleplaying zero poster) to end up as deep wolf until f5 or f3. It's also annoying to have to do an preemptive elimination before XyLO and it's even more annoying if we don't do it and then we reach that point.

All that said, I don't mind them getting out TODAY, but I definitely mind them not participating as much as they should, be it due to role, low WIM, roleplay, or a mix of all of it. At the very least, we should gauge what they can do and if it's gonna be a liability or not later on.

Anyway, every time I see a long post, I eagerly scan to see if my post had been quoted cuz I dearly love my sections but I never see them ;(
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #298 on: March 04, 2025, 06:47:06 pm »

I've had a very busy day, I actually got scammed today and had to deal with that for hours.  Bah, if I can't detect IRL scum...  Well I'll still do all I can here.

Where dunce cap

Who dunce cap

I want my fucking dunce cap back.

But:

Claim: I have an ability that can destroy a hat. Knowing Fallacy, one of you probably has a "cursed" hat of "screw the wearer".

So, if anyone wants their hat destroyed, let me know.

I endorse you destroying hats as long as you don't destroy any in my possession and if destroying hats reduces the hat requirement for the hat tyrant victory.

Jim, so you actually have your dunce cap? Or, you're actually joking about wanting your dunce cap? Or, you can bring it back if it's destroyed? (Perhaps just if it's not in your possession when destroyed - hey we just had a NQT game where I could recreate specific destroyed objects, that could be a thing here for Jim.) Or I dunno the heck you're doing.  But you maybe want all other players but yourself to lose, noted.  Cause it's fun, surely.

1. If they are mafia and we eliminate them, then it'll mean that we gained less information from their flip than any other flip.
2. I want to see more of their play before we eliminate them. I've played with them once and they barely talked in that one so I want to see them talk in day2.

Crystal, What makes elim of SM less informative than other elims, especially if maf?

My thoughts:  Everyone's interacting back towards SM, even if only to ignore/not discuss.  There's not standard two-way communication, but I absolutely would be okay with elim of a zero poster if I didn't like elim of any of the posters; SM is at worst 'as bad' as a zero-poster in terms of info content.

What are your thoughts?
I'd argue that zero info poster who is allowed to vote and doesn't give any reads at all may be worse than a person who forgot that the game exists. Because if we assume that it's fine for them to keep doing this, town's paranoia for other town is likely to carry them over to the endgame. One correct read is enough for SM (the roleplaying zero poster) to end up as deep wolf until f5 or f3. It's also annoying to have to do an preemptive elimination before XyLO and it's even more annoying if we don't do it and then we reach that point.

All that said, I don't mind them getting out TODAY, but I definitely mind them not participating as much as they should, be it due to role, low WIM, roleplay, or a mix of all of it. At the very least, we should gauge what they can do and if it's gonna be a liability or not later on.

Anyway, every time I see a long post, I eagerly scan to see if my post had been quoted cuz I dearly love my sections but I never see them ;(
Correction, I meant that I don't mind them staying alive today*
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Re: FBYOR 7 - Day 1 - Car Crash (14 / 14)
« Reply #299 on: March 04, 2025, 07:01:56 pm »

Probably Town: Imp, Toastercultist
Maybe Town: Jim, Crystal
Theater Kids: Tric, Skies, Cat, Agent T. Krr1ss.
Maybe Mafia: Jack, Magma, NQT
Probably Mafia: Toony, , Salvadore

On thoughts, missing Krr1ss from this shorthand list. Eh you can go into Theater.
... On Active Crystal, Mafia Crystal seems a bit aloof when I played with them, so wouldn't an active Crystal mean town?
Scumreading the two people posting with restrictions is so lazy, you can do better.
Are you deliberately not giving reads on the people you're in a chat with, or is that coincidental?
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