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[FallacyofUrist]

Please be decent to your fellow players. If you feel the tension of the game is getting to you, I encourage you to take however much of a break you need.

[Magma Mater]

I don't think that Imp is willing to listen to me so yeah. You guys are free to help if you wanna.

... Absolutely please help. This doesn't get elimmed by me alone.

I'm listening, but you'll have to do a lot to convince me. Begging on your knees won't be enough.

So you.  Literal -you-.  Who I have played with before and we were both town.

You who was sure TCk was anti-town is sure this isn't.  Wow you.

If this is supposed to convince me that Krr1ss is mafia, it isn't doing a very good job of it.

[Jim Groovester]

wow Jim your reads suck

Yeah, this is pretty typical of how I play. If it doesn't live up to your expectations, I'm not sorry.



I don't care about threads of fate. Somebody tell me why I should within my attention span.

WITHIN MY ATTENTION SPAN IMP

I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU

WITHIN MY ATTENTION SPAN

NOT YOURS

ToonyMan, thank you. If I get a chance I'll review not and tric with what you've said.

Nqt has been after toastercultist and VS mostly for passivity and low activity. These don't count for you? Not trying to defend nqt here, just questioning your reads.

[Imp]

I don't think that Imp is willing to listen to me so yeah. You guys are free to help if you wanna.

... Absolutely please help. This doesn't get elimmed by me alone.

I'm listening, but you'll have to do a lot to convince me. Begging on your knees won't be enough.

So you.  Literal -you-.  Who I have played with before and we were both town.

You who was sure TCk was anti-town is sure this isn't.  Wow you.

If this is supposed to convince me that Krr1ss is mafia, it isn't doing a very good job of it.

Well, I can't.  Convince maf of anything.

If Krr1ss lives maybe redirect him into Mater if he lives.  If someone can and dares, that might get the redirect locked down.

[ToonyMan]

@About Tric's openness:
Maybe not as open on this public thread, but I've noticed that they have told their Theater buddies (Cat/Verm/Agentt) a lot of info that they didn't have to do. This feels odd to me if they're mafia.

@The problem with Jack:
I haven't forgotten about Jack either. I don't think it's likely they killed Sal (or Disabled me) so I haven't been focusing that hard on them.

Nqt has been after toastercultist and VS mostly for passivity and low activity. These don't count for you? Not trying to defend nqt here, just questioning your reads.

That's true. I don't feel like they have been trying that hard though. I remember them doing a lecture about finding scum in nonvoters which felt noncommittal to me.

[Imp]

WITHIN MY ATTENTION SPAN IMP

I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU

WITHIN MY ATTENTION SPAN

NOT YOURS

Krr1ss is like web from CYOS1.  Please help kill it.  Remember setup to have up to 7 maf-kills per night.

Liar, feels terribad.  Playing like anti-town to my senses.  Needs dead.  Likely to take people with when dies or do other terribad stuff.

[Magma Mater]

ToonyMan, can you give me the 120 second rundown on why NQT and TricMagic are suspect to you?

@Krr1ss:
You caused the Thread of Fate on Verm and Imp, got it.

Also, you're annoying. Stop posting unless you have something worth saying. I can't follow how erratic and incoherent you are. You have the energy and motivation of a 10 year old child.

Cut him some slack, he's a teenager.

[ToonyMan]

@Imp:
If Krr1ss was busy Threading of Fate you and Verm I don't think they were also Disabling me or killing Sal.

But beyond that if you don't want to be mechanical about it: I don't feel like Krr1ss has ill intent here. You need to evaluate them as whether they're doing things because they're town or mafia. Your knee-jerk reaction of "KILL IT WITH FIRE" because they didn't tell us the full truth (they admitted to watching Verm last night but that's all) is not a correct rationale, because it doesn't mean Krr1ss is mafia.

[TricMagic]

Imp, I'll note the only way the thread grows is if you make it grow to Omega status. While it could be an infection, it could also be chat-related instead. As an example: This Thread we're playing mafia in. Or the threads the various chats might be hosted in.

[Imp]

Imp, I'll note the only way the thread grows is if you make it grow to Omega status. While it could be an infection, it could also be chat-related instead. As an example: This Thread we're playing mafia in. Or the threads the various chats might be hosted in.

I got Alpha.  Verm reported Alpha.  But fine.  I go do other things for a while.  Do something smart with this thread.  Most of us have to be town.

[Imp]

@About Tric's openness:
Maybe not as open on this public thread, but I've noticed that they have told their Theater buddies (Cat/Verm/Agentt) a lot of info that they didn't have to do. This feels odd to me if they're mafia.

Whoops noticed this.

CYOS2 Tric was maf and in 2 different other-player-created solo chats with me.  You were there but SK and maybe not paying normal attention.

Our first chat he chose to insta-close.  Our second he gave me a lot of info, most true.  106 posts there.

Opened with

As usual, offering my ability. Don't got any items obviously. So Imp. Why have you been lying? I'm no longer infected so can Train you. In fact had planned to do that anyway to test a hunch I had.

Remained open and sharing/chatting/pretty honest about most things all chat, the whole N3.  You're already in that discord, it's #ouija-chat-d3.

Link for anyone to use:  https://discord.gg/pdkEDtzP

[Krr1ss]

Thanks guys, appreciate it. Also sorry Toony, I'll lower down the  amount of fluff or not as necessary posts. Didn't expect it to annoy anyone but that's probably site culture difference .

[Krr1ss]

The Thread doesn't grow. She got Alpha and it'll stay with her until somehow removed. It's harmless by itself and the spreading ability does just that. Spread it. I can give Beta next night and that's what I'll do. All I can learn from that is how many people have them and check through that whether some people lied or not.

Feel free to suggest who I will give it to. I will maybe follow, maybe lie and do someone else, it doesn't matter cuz you'll learn next day if I do stay alive.

Also consider, would anyone in their sane mind make such a wide range harmful ability? I definitely wouldn't. Consider the balance of this game first and foremost.

[notquitethere]

I think NQT is hiding from us. I think they know why my ability was Disabled.

1. I've tried to be forthcoming where it makes sense to be, but there's certainly more I can do today.
2. I have no idea why you were disabled (if you were disabled). I don't have any reason to lie about that. Feel free to try it again.

That's true. I don't feel like they have been trying that hard though. I remember them doing a lecture about finding scum in nonvoters which felt noncommittal to me.

I'm literally voting one of those nonvoters twice right now. Until you voted me right now, you weren't voting. On that measure, I was infinitely more committed than you.


I don't expect anyone else to take this on face value, but this game is pretty funny from my perspective:

- Tric has two votes, he votes me because I have two votes
- I vote Toastercultist for being lazy, he votes me back for lazily voting him
- Kris lies to town, suspects me because I say town can lie
- Kris thinks it's sus that I have a power that does nothing immediately for some later gain, has a power that does nothing immediately for some later gain
- Toony votes me for not trying to vote out scum when he wasn't even trying to vote out scum

It's Fallacy's Bring Your Own Dramatic Irony out here. Do I think any of these people have to be scum? No, that would be ridiculous, I think people are fairer with themselves than they are with others. Just as I'm being right now with myself, I suppose!


Anyway, more to the point, I've been trying to parse the claims. Imp is very worried about the Threads of Fate thing. Everyone else is saying, chill. Probably a lot of people have powers that can get a bit out of hand.

I don't think Imp is absolutely off the wall here. The thing she's concerned about is a legitimate scum power role type. She uses CYOS1 as an example. But in that game, her own role was also a slow gaining power accumulating engine and she was town. I think Kris having that kind of role is NAI. I think Kris revealing the details of the role is slightly townsided (scum would probably want to keep the info about their plan to press the I Win button a secret for a bit longer). Kris's activity in thread is consistent with a town player (though maybe I'm poorly calibrated here as most Bay12 players aren't as intense in their posting schedule).

[Krr1ss]

The Thread doesn't grow. She got Alpha and it'll stay with her until somehow removed. It's harmless by itself and the spreading ability does just that. Spread it. I can give Beta next night and that's what I'll do. All I can learn from that is how many people have them and check through that whether some people lied or not.

Feel free to suggest who I will give it to. I will maybe follow, maybe lie and do someone else, it doesn't matter cuz you'll learn next day if I do stay alive.

Also consider, would anyone in their sane mind make such a wide range harmful ability? I definitely wouldn't. Consider the balance of this game first and foremost.

It's also how I learnt that Verm targeted no one. Because I got feedback that only two people possess it.

Why Imp? She's likely town and she literally announced what she'll do. I wanted it to spread to as many as possible but I guess this is fine since we learnt that Verm did nothing last night. Or somehow his action failed.