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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #810 on: February 03, 2025, 03:28:55 pm »

Trap card.  Might be enough.
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #811 on: February 03, 2025, 04:05:22 pm »

NQT, NJW: Do you think the activity pattern of duelistchat is consistent with two of its members being members of the scumteam and scumchat?
They’re hiding it well, but that’s quite plausible. I do have to admit they spoke a fair bit when I wasn’t there.

Salvatore is probably chattier in the duelist chat than in thread. Some people are more talkative on discord, so I discounted it at the time.

I’d also note that Hyper/salvatore and NQT both seemed quite eager to conclude that it was almost definitely a mason chat. I wasn’t sure what to make of that, as I didn’t think there would be two scum in Duelists.
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #812 on: February 03, 2025, 04:32:40 pm »

Last night I tracked Imp. She self-targeted again.

Imp, you'll know that I targeted you as I confirmed that you don't have a third genre beyond Narrative and Duel, and you have 8 personal abilities.

Importantly, as I hinted at in earlier posts, I'm immune to abilities that interfere with my inspection results so we can definitely conclude, assuming only three scum players:

IMP CANNOT BE SCUM



EP, I think it's unlikely that NJW is scum, though it could be possible. Almost all the convos in the chat are between me and someone else, with NJW and Max not interacting much. Not sure how much weight to put on that, but my guess is Salvatore was the only scum in chat.



I can confirm Elephant Parade targeted me (with what I assume was a personal ability). Not that I think EP is mafia  but scum can kill and use a personal ability in the same night.



Crystal is my main pick today, but I'll be re-examing it all. More when I'm not pfp...
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« Reply #813 on: February 03, 2025, 04:45:21 pm »

Last night I tracked Imp. She self-targeted again.

Imp, you'll know that I targeted you as I confirmed that you don't have a third genre beyond Narrative and Duel, and you have 8 personal abilities.

Importantly, as I hinted at in earlier posts, I'm immune to abilities that interfere with my inspection results so we can definitely conclude, assuming only three scum players:

IMP CANNOT BE SCUM



EP, I think it's unlikely that NJW is scum, though it could be possible. Almost all the convos in the chat are between me and someone else, with NJW and Max not interacting much. Not sure how much weight to put on that, but my guess is Salvatore was the only scum in chat.



I can confirm Elephant Parade targeted me (with what I assume was a personal ability). Not that I think EP is mafia  but scum can kill and use a personal ability in the same night.



Crystal is my main pick today, but I'll be re-examing it all. More when I'm not pfp...
There were already approximately one billion reasons why Imp shouldn't be scum, to the point where I sort of question your choice of target, but I understand, and I appreciate the confirmation. Also I guess I would've felt less certain about this if EJ hadn't flipped overnight.

NJW and Hyper/Salvatore not really interacting would be consistent with either (a) them being scum with another line of communication who didn't want to have to fake extra interactions or (b) Hyper/Salvatore, and to a lesser degree NJW, just being less active than you in general. It sounds like you're leaning toward (b)?

NQT, NJW: Do you think the activity pattern of duelistchat is consistent with two of its members being members of the scumteam and scumchat?
They’re hiding it well, but that’s quite plausible. I do have to admit they spoke a fair bit when I wasn’t there.

Salvatore is probably chattier in the duelist chat than in thread. Some people are more talkative on discord, so I discounted it at the time.

I’d also note that Hyper/salvatore and NQT both seemed quite eager to conclude that it was almost definitely a mason chat. I wasn’t sure what to make of that, as I didn’t think there would be two scum in Duelists.
What makes it plausible, given that they interacted a lot?
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #814 on: February 03, 2025, 05:02:44 pm »

NQT: If not lynched today, will you be able to clear another player tonight?
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« Reply #815 on: February 03, 2025, 05:10:35 pm »

Last night I tracked Imp. She self-targeted again.

Imp, you'll know that I targeted you as I confirmed that you don't have a third genre beyond Narrative and Duel, and you have 8 personal abilities.

Importantly, as I hinted at in earlier posts, I'm immune to abilities that interfere with my inspection results so we can definitely conclude, assuming only three scum players:

[glow= purple,2,300]IMP CANNOT BE SCUM[/glow]



EP, I think it's unlikely that NJW is scum, though it could be possible. Almost all the convos in the chat are between me and someone else, with NJW and Max not interacting much. Not sure how much weight to put on that, but my guess is Salvatore was the only scum in chat.



I can confirm Elephant Parade targeted me (with what I assume was a personal ability). Not that I think EP is mafia  but scum can kill and use a personal ability in the same night.



Crystal is my main pick today, but I'll be re-examing it all. More when I'm not pfp...

Broke the glow just in case EP prefers that gone, I didn't need it.

NQT you seem so excited and eager to be helpful.

What's going on in your head?

You proclaim oddly/weirdly that "I can confirm Elephant Parade targeted me (with what I assume was a personal ability). Not that I think EP is mafia  but scum can kill and use a personal ability in the same night."

And then you say, "IMP CANNOT BE SCUM"

Is that because of what you say is my target?  I'm not calling you a liar or not about that.  However... walk us through what you're brain's doing that you've now proven I'm not maf.

Yeah, I'm town.

Walk us through what you think you're doing, besides if you're town trying to share with everyone (thus also maf) everything you have said about me, which clearly I was just dying to have known and wow, I woulda flipped except you stepped in.

Or if maf playing more headgames and trying to figure out from my reactions some WIFOM stuff about if I doubt that maf you can handle whatever.

I get you're PFP.  Who PFP rushed to type all that.

Take your time, I'm anti-hammer-early.
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #816 on: February 03, 2025, 05:13:40 pm »

EP: I just meant it’s plausible that they would be hiding it well if they were scum together. Both being strong players. Typo - ish.
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« Reply #817 on: February 03, 2025, 05:25:19 pm »

Is that because of what you say is my target?  I'm not calling you a liar or not about that.  However... walk us through what you're brain's doing that you've now proven I'm not maf.
1. I tracked you and saw that you only targeted yourself (I assume you confirm the rest of my claim as you haven't said any of it is wrong).
2. My track cannot be fooled
3. Euchrejack was killed.
THEREFORE, you can't be Euchrejack's killer
4. There are probably only 3 mafia players.
THEREFORE, Imp isn't mafia.

I just wanted to get that out there early as it was very important info for everyone to know.

As for the EP thing, I was just confirming that he had targeted me again with his action, like he asked me to confirm.

I'm not playing 4D chess here. I'm doing what I'm doing because I'm playing to a town wincon.
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #818 on: February 03, 2025, 05:26:18 pm »

Elephant Parade
NJW and Hyper/Salvatore not really interacting would be consistent with either (a) them being scum with another line of communication who didn't want to have to fake extra interactions or (b) Hyper/Salvatore, and to a lesser degree NJW, just being less active than you in general. It sounds like you're leaning toward (b)?
I think B is personally plausible. It's a red flag that should be ignored, but it's not conclusive of anything on its own.

NQT: If not lynched today, will you be able to clear another player tonight?
My role only increases in power each night, so most likely.
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« Reply #819 on: February 03, 2025, 05:34:19 pm »

Elephant Parade
NJW and Hyper/Salvatore not really interacting would be consistent with either (a) them being scum with another line of communication who didn't want to have to fake extra interactions or (b) Hyper/Salvatore, and to a lesser degree NJW, just being less active than you in general. It sounds like you're leaning toward (b)?
I think B is personally plausible. It's a red flag that should be ignored, but it's not conclusive of anything on its own.

NQT: If not lynched today, will you be able to clear another player tonight?
My role only increases in power each night, so most likely.
OK, cool. That makes me more or less completely uninterested in lynching you today, since scum has to be in {NQT, CM, NJW}. If we lynch CM or NJW today, scum has to be in {NQT, X}, where X is whoever of CM or NJW we didn't lynch today. If scum then kills you tonight, then it can only be {X}. If scum kills anyone else, then you can clear {X}, meaning... it's... you? I'm not sure I'm thinking through this the right way, and obviously it relies on the assumption that you won't be interfered with (and, for people who aren't me, the assumption that I'm town), but I think it basically makes sense.
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« Reply #820 on: February 03, 2025, 05:49:03 pm »

As that stuff goes, and with nearly nothing I'm willing to say.

We appear to have more info on CM than NJW, mechanically.

If I had to go all narrative, I'd rather face maf!CM than maf!NJW.

Sadly I know nearly nothing mechwise about NQT either.  but accepting there's no way we elim NQT today.

If you let me pick between NJW and CM to flip.  Gimme NJW solved.

I may not be able to handle maf!NQT.  CM I can probably handle, famous last words and all.  Even with that Eurogame tangle.

And if she's town.

That eurogame tangle has benefit no matter how slowly it builds.
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #821 on: February 03, 2025, 05:55:08 pm »

1. I tracked you and saw that you only targeted yourself (I assume you confirm the rest of my claim as you haven't said any of it is wrong).

Oh, important.

I ain't confirming anything.

I'm also not calling you out as a liar.

Maybe I have a post restriction or something about confirmations.

Who cares but maf?
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #822 on: February 03, 2025, 05:57:41 pm »

NJW
I stopped NQT targeting Crystal or EP.
Why Crystal? Also, can you stop me targeting you or does it have to be other players?

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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #823 on: February 03, 2025, 05:59:19 pm »

That said.  CM?  Whenever you get back into the thread.

I have no advice for you.  I dunno if you're town or not.  I lean town on you and I'd snap your role in an instant if things go that way.

We're all taking some pretty big risks.  I'm shocked if you're sole maf alive.  And ready to burn you down if you are.

But play.  Daygame time.  No matter how magic you think you are.  Flippin' daygame and help town out here - even if you're maf.  Flippin' A covering for so many people.
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Re: Bring Your Own Board Game - Day Five
« Reply #824 on: February 03, 2025, 06:02:19 pm »

Normally I wouldn't care about someone not having posted yet a mere five hours into the day, and would indeed roll my eyes at anyone calling them out, but CM (1) has been online in the meantime and (2) has lurked chronically throughout the game
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