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Author Topic: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - GAME OVER - Mafia Team Murder Victory?  (Read 16799 times)

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D2 - Silent Night
« Reply #495 on: December 05, 2024, 08:26:46 pm »

As far as I know, pages shouldn't do that. The description just states that it passively copies the name of a random ability.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D2 - Silent Night
« Reply #496 on: December 05, 2024, 08:29:43 pm »

Can confirm, appear to have distribution and mimic spheres.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D2 - Silent Night
« Reply #497 on: December 05, 2024, 08:33:32 pm »

Also, the reason why I don't want the lost page anymore is because it changed one of my abilities in a negative way.
Imp: Why did you insist on giving a page to Tricmagic?

I did not give a page to Tric.

I encouraged anyone to give a page to Tric.  Jack traded one to him, we all saw that.

Tric doesn't claim to have gotten an additional page.

Tric did claim he wanted to pass, to me, an ability.  He used the chat he and I were in start of D1 to instalose, forcing me to gain a 1-shot copy of one of his qualifying abilities and ending the chat before I could even finish asking the mod questions about it.

I didn't get the one or either of the two he intended, I'm not sure I understand how many good ones he wanted to share and see used.

But he wants to pass 1+ ability.

As of D1, I have the book, I don't have the pages, and I have someone trying to pass abilities for use and claims the use would be pro-town, claims that he can't target anyone without killing them.

Maybe the book's made for stuff like this.  It makes huge sense to get a page into his hands.  If I keep control over the book/it stays in the control of town, and Tric discusses what the abilities do so I or anyone else using the book can use them safely, then it works.

Would it happen?  No idea.  It could, so reason to get a page (or even 2, but probably not all 3+) into his hands, to help have a way to try and pass the ability(ies) he wanted to someone else.  He wouldn't even lose them.

Only other way to use the pages I can imagine is to try and see what ability names someone has, perhaps to catch lies.  Rather narrow and unlikely, since only names are recorded.  Someone with a book and enough pages can test named abilities to confirm claims as well - all that requires the book.

If it was in my hands, and I alive to use it, and had the pages to use it and information I wanted to try and use, that can make sense, since I know my alignment.

And we even have targetable ghosts, that I can test various things on to see if they do whatever was claimed, if ever anything was claimed, without being as likely to risk killing someone if there's lies involved.  If the game had gone on long enough and that kinda set up happened.

As is, I don't plan on having the book or 3+ pages; I don't plan on being alive to use it.  I am content with it being destroyed, getting it safely usable is likely a time consuming pain.

But that's why I wanted Tric to have a page.

I did not give him one.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D2 - Silent Night
« Reply #498 on: December 05, 2024, 08:35:38 pm »

Also, the reason why I don't want the lost page anymore is because it changed one of my abilities in a negative way.

If this claim is true, then either CrystalizedMire has a role that has trouble with items like the pages, or something happened to CrystalizedMire that she thinks was caused by the page, when in fact it was caused by something else.

Kinda like me; I initially believed I probably got infected from targeting Tric.  Reasonable, given the information I was presented with - but incorrect.

CrystalizedMire:  Why do you think the page changed one of your abilities in a negative way?
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« Reply #499 on: December 05, 2024, 08:38:00 pm »

Also, the reason why I don't want the lost page anymore is because it changed one of my abilities in a negative way.
Imp: Why did you insist on giving a page to Tricmagic?
Is there anything else you would like to claim, CM? Be thorough.
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« Reply #500 on: December 05, 2024, 08:39:33 pm »

Really need to hear Elephant Parade's spheres.
I don't really want to share stuff about my role right now, to be honest. Can you take a raincheck?
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D2 - Silent Night
« Reply #501 on: December 05, 2024, 08:40:41 pm »

Oh people don’t like it when you do that, they get very bent out of shape if you do that.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D2 - Silent Night
« Reply #502 on: December 05, 2024, 08:41:07 pm »

Hector being the ghostmaster makes zero sense to me because he is himself a ghost. Locking the elimination behind a player who can't be eliminated would be totally cuckoo.
I believe there are ways to destroy ghosts, or at least for them to be removed from the game. Also, Vermilion's body was removed which has not been solved.

In addition:
notquitethere: Do the auto abilities of players who become ghosts continue to function?
Nothing in the condition says autos stop working, though as ever there could be exceptions.



So we should be voting people who could reasonably be the ghostmaker. Which doesn't include me.
I can't vote ghosts. I'm willing to vote someone who isn't FoU, which may happen this day.

Mafia need to be killing in some way, so I'm willing to vote someone who is likely killing, such as yourself or Jack (Jack admitted to the Jim daykill at this point, basically every kill has been openly admitted at this point haha).



...at this point, hector deserves to win with the secondary wincon of "continue to play the game even though he's dead".

I would probably have NOPE'd and walked off by now.
Hector is pushing for Imp though, which I think is wrong. They also haven't reacted to me, which I'm a little hurt by.

I promised I would call the person who daykilled Jim an idiot, so I will! That was an idiotic daykill Jack!



Are you sure Toony is Town? Isn't his argument that a ghost is the ghostmaker a bit unreasonable? He's been fixated on me all game.
I don't think it's unreasonable. Maybe it's wrong, but not unreasonable.



ffs it’s CM and Imp. The only reason Imp would know what infection is if their partner was scum, or Tric acted. Tric claimed acting on Egan, so that’s not it.

The only other thing is a copycat, or some other means of power copying, in which case it’s FoU and someone else.
For the Imp infection mystery I think it's your second scenario with copycatting with FoU and someone else. It doesn't necessarily have to be you Hector as scum if I'm wrong, which FoU is probably gloating about in scumchat if true.



I can't help with the page and tome discussion because I have nothing to input on it, sorry.
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« Reply #503 on: December 05, 2024, 08:42:12 pm »

Oh people don’t like it when you do that, they get very bent out of shape if you do that.
Under the circumstances, I can see why.

Hector being the ghostmaster makes zero sense to me because he is himself a ghost. Locking the elimination behind a player who can't be eliminated would be totally cuckoo.
I believe there are ways to destroy ghosts, or at least for them to be removed from the game. Also, Vermilion's body was removed which has not been solved.
Nobody has demonstrated any yet.
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« Reply #504 on: December 05, 2024, 08:46:47 pm »

Full disclosure: Toony stocks have been plummeting since my big post earlier today. What's the opposite of a mindmeld? We have that.
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« Reply #505 on: December 05, 2024, 08:50:40 pm »

yeah so it's CrystalizedMire who's messing with the dead I think

EP, if it's not you, it's almost certainly CM, I've been keeping track of spheres
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« Reply #506 on: December 05, 2024, 08:53:14 pm »

Full disclosure: Toony stocks have been plummeting since my big post earlier today. What's the opposite of a mindmeld? We have that.
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« Reply #507 on: December 05, 2024, 08:54:02 pm »

I did react to you Toony, that’s what the claim was, and you said I was a liar! How’s that for appreciation, eh?

I don’t think anything I say will change your mind, but maybe I’ve just been talking to Imp too long.

I’m still in the tsun phase of tsundere. Unfortunately it’s tsun all the way down.
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« Reply #508 on: December 05, 2024, 08:55:01 pm »

I've been talking with the voices in my head. I think Hector is not ghost guilty. I agree with Max that it's Crystal.
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« Reply #509 on: December 05, 2024, 09:01:34 pm »

Eh, ok CrystalizedMire
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