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[hector13]

You promised that in Max’s Supernatural, and used town’s weapon against them the second anyone looked at you wrong.

[Imp]

You promised that in Max’s Supernatural, and used town’s weapon against them the second anyone looked at you wrong.

I think you might be confusing games.  Max's Soviet Mafia was a very different game, and I used the vote, arguably 'town's weapon' (but anyones'; scums' too) against anyone who was hostile towards me.

And that's essentially what I 'promised' to do from my first post:

Unless any of you precious people explicitly need survivors dead - maybe someone will let me win with you.  If not, very well.  I literally only need to be alive at game end, I will be pleased with any who don't oppose that, and I mean to play for the enjoyment of all, and try some new ways to play out, see if they annoy y'allies less, I hope.  I do remember I could win with very few others, last time we Spun so sweetly, and they knew but not me.  Handle me however you do then.

People who vote me are not 'letting me win with them'.

Supernormal was a very different game, and I played pure town, not survivor there, despite being a survivor.  But I never promised there either.

[hector13]

Regardless, you said you’d play townie in that game also, and the game ended in my prediction of the survivor quick hammering the player they liked least as kingmaker. Amusingly enough, the three surviving players were two different scum teams and the survivor.

Egan should give you a second wincon just for the lulz, tbh.

[Imp]

Regardless, you said you’d play townie in that game also, and the game ended in my prediction of the survivor quick hammering the player they liked least as kingmaker. Amusingly enough, the three surviving players were two different scum teams and the survivor.

Egan should give you a second wincon just for the lulz, tbh.

No.  I did not say I'd play townie there.  I even expressly said I'd play in a way I hadn't before.

Sheesh, Hector.  You're like, not even introduced to honesty and truth yet.

[EuchreJack]

Sorry that I haven't been around much. At least I slept well last night before going to work.

Oh, and I picked Daytime and Kill along with Votes. So yes, I continued along the Town strategy of "everyone dies so Town wins" by launching my Daykill. I picked Jim since he seemed like the player who would most appreciate not having to play as much.

Sorry that I didn't consult prior to firing, but I figured when I got back to the forum that I could learn something from how people reacted.

For example, Toony is very concerned and now suspects me. That means Toony is Town, as that is exactly how I would expect Town Toony to act. Not being concerned would have been very suspicious. Of course, I already figured Toony was town, but the extra info is nice.

I'm most concerned about Maximum Spin, as he seems the most likely to be infection immune and scum.

[EuchreJack]

...at this point, hector deserves to win with the secondary wincon of "continue to play the game even though he's dead".

I would probably have NOPE'd and walked off by now.

[EuchreJack]

I may be drunk.  Ok, probably am drunk.

[hector13]

Can we just hammer someone and get this over with? The less time I have to spend interacting with Imp, the better, and the quicker I never have to come back.

Like, can the scum team just out themselves or something? Please?

[Jim Groovester]

That's one of the laziest justifications for a day kill I think I've ever seen.

Not even trying to shoot scum.

[Imp]

Can we just hammer someone and get this over with? The less time I have to spend interacting with Imp, the better, and the quicker I never have to come back.

Like, can the scum team just out themselves or something? Please?

No.  Some of us need to think, plan, and reread the game, because we have a wincon we're trying for.


Okay.  So, let's say that CrystalizedMire isn't actually infected.  Perhaps Hector+CrystalizedMire are anti-town teamed, that might be the only explanation.

If we elim someone not-CM today and I die N2, but CM lives.  We have 5 alive for D3 if there's no additional kill N2.  That's a lot.  Impossible to win means no crazy vote stuff either, and no miracle ability plays. But claiming CrystalizedMire infected doesn't save the other anti-towns from elim if there are any alive - and I don't think CrystalizedMire was our clear likely elim D2.

So I think CrystalizedMire is actually infected.  A lie of her being infected now to 'protect her from the elim' or really any other reason I can imagine, I think hurts more than it would seem likely to help, especially if she doesn't die N2.

Also, there's Hector.  If Hector's actually town or an anti-town not aligned with CM, then there's a chance he infected an anti-town.

Maybe that explains CrystalizedMire's lack of discussion/involvement as of D2 this game?

We saw a pro-town, actual town-ally CrystalizedMire who was dying in Max's SuperNormal from poison.  We couldn't find a way to save her, but she was convincingly pro-town and active, even while knowing she was in her final day before death unless some cure happened, and nobody claimed a cure was coming.  Very different reaction here.


Thanks for the explain, Jack.  I hope you're okay.

[FallacyofUrist]

Are you sure Toony is Town? Isn't his argument that a ghost is the ghostmaker a bit unreasonable? He's been fixated on me all game.

[Jim Groovester]

I picked Jim since he seemed like the player who would most appreciate not having to play as much.

No, Jack, I don't actually appreciate this.

And 'kill everyone for the town win' is a braindead strategy. I hope you're scum here and not saying these things genuinely.

[Imp]

I mean, if the anti-towns wanna out themselves, yay.  But I'm not ready for a hammer.

That's one of the laziest justifications for a day kill I think I've ever seen.

Not even trying to shoot scum.

Yeah.  Well, I sussed you to a degree I'm not totally sure about, for whatever that was worth.

But yeah.  I'm confused about CrystalizedMire's movement towards any wincon, and kinda lean less likely to be town for CrystalizedMire, in case she lives past me and I maybe don't ghost or whatever.  I am weak-lean more likely anti-town than town on CrystalizedMire.

[hector13]

ffs it’s CM and Imp. The only reason Imp would know what infection is if their partner was scum, or Tric acted. Tric claimed acting on Egan, so that’s not it.

The only other thing is a copycat, or some other means of power copying, in which case it’s FoU and someone else.

[FallacyofUrist]

Ugh, I'm going to have to do hardcore analysis stuff once I'm home from work, aren't I

Fine, I'll give it a go.

But it's probably just "Toony is the ghostmaker". Honestly.

At the very least he's probably scum. I think.

Ninja'd by hector. Wasn't the description of infection publicly revealed?