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[Egan_BW]

lol

I do think it odd that fal calls the book a terror.  It is a terror in the wrong and well equipped hands.  But anyone should be happy with the book not in enemy hands. 

Once assembled, it's absolute power with no control. Not exactly useful for anything but as a distraction and obfuscation, which helps scum. And as long as anyone has it, it can be stolen by scum. That's why it's a cursed tome that needs to be destroyed.

[Maximum Spin]

There is
- no independent proof that Imp is infected
- no independent proof that Crystal is infected if hector's teamed and really infected Imp instead / did something else entirely
- no independent proof that hector even IS the infector (always claim your teammates' actions/results whenever it's useful or funny)
- no independent proof that Vermin's body is gone

It's entirely possible that hypnotic headbands could be triggered to exhaust or kill the wearer. I'm not sure about this with Jim having claimed to have eaten the headband, but it may well be that it applies to someone hypnotized regardless of whether or not currently wearing it.
It's probably possible that a "Warehouse 13 type role" could keep people alive as ghosts, but I don't know enough to have much confidence in this.
It seems somewhat unlikely that a "Warehouse 13 type role" would infect people with some seemingly mundane disease, unless there's some specific artefact that does that in the canon.
I don't see any obvious way that Jim could have the ability to fake his death (or even self-sacrifice for a benefit) given the spheres I know he most likely has.

I don't currently think I know enough about anyone else's roles to make any judgements and I would welcome information.
I really want to claim my own role but I think I need to hear from others whether it is worth the risk.

Imp, I believe you must have taken: Distributed, convolution, variety. Would you care to elucidate on that? I'm mildly worried someone might have Spheres powers but I think this much seems obvious enough (least sure about variety) that anyone could guess.
And while I appreciate your evaluation of my skill, I took a fun role that gives me zero information whatsoever in a game where we also get zero information normally. I have nothing to go on and nobody to trust. My first use of my abilities totally failed to work out the way I had wanted or provide anything useful.

The only thing I can confidently say right now is that I believe the most likely players to have killed Jim are either Fallacy (and that reaction is incredibly damning, but Fallacy has been known to make those scummy reactions as town before I guess), or EuchreJack, who has proven a Votes power, which happens to be riiiiight up there with Day and Kill. He'd do it, too.

lol

I do think it odd that fal calls the book a terror.  It is a terror in the wrong and well equipped hands.  But anyone should be happy with the book not in enemy hands. 

Once assembled, it's absolute power with no control. Not exactly useful for anything but as a distraction and obfuscation, which helps scum. And as long as anyone has it, it can be stolen by scum. That's why it's a cursed tome that needs to be destroyed.

I believe your current plan for dealing with the book is the best choice we have, yes.

[Imp]

lol

I do think it odd that fal calls the book a terror.  It is a terror in the wrong and well equipped hands.  But anyone should be happy with the book not in enemy hands. 

Once assembled, it's absolute power with no control. Not exactly useful for anything but as a distraction and obfuscation, which helps scum. And as long as anyone has it, it can be stolen by scum. That's why it's a cursed tome that needs to be destroyed.

Absolutely destroy the thing, yes.

You are presuming absolute power gets into the pages.

They get an ability name.

If it is not your ability, that's still all you get.

How do you use it?  What does it do?  Do you want that thing done?

Someone who has dangerous, or helpful, or whatever useful abilities and can get that onto the  knows what they are doing and how to use.  Otherwise you get a list of names, and cannot use until have all three pages.  If someone wants chaos, there they go.  It is a low odds of successful assembly object.  And you have to be told what other abilities are or guess.

Surely very useful in a known alignment team group, like scum.  I started with the darn thing.  I didn't freak about the odds of it leaving my hand d1.  Apparently fou passed it to Egan n-1 and verm claims evidence of it wagered.

Sounds good, I don't think the book is doing anything.  Hope it wasn't copied as it passed through hands.

But it is not an object of terror.  This game so far is rough and the book is a well handled small distraction especially if you three are honest.

[ToonyMan]

At work quick thoughts:

Wait, if we don't lynch CM she can infect someone tonight, and if she's scum (still pretty sure of that) that's pretty bad. CrystalizedMire.

I don't think Crystal is scum here though, or at least, not mafia.

Jack has vote power and also gave a little bit to Elephant, which Elephant confirmed. So Jack and Elephant have pretty strong vote control. I don't think Jack and Elephant are mafia together here.

FoU is probably lying in their role-claim, it doesn't make sense for Hypnotic Cat Headbands to control a player when hypnosis is a "mimc" sphere ability.

Max...I got nothing. Their parables are funny.

[ToonyMan]

When hypnosis is a "mimic" sphere ability, which FoU isn't claiming*

[Egan_BW]

Since Tric refused to answer last time, I'll ask again, because that always works.
Tric, did you receive a second wincon ability in the night?

BTW, I know we're not about kumbya wins, but I believe I could accomplish one with just my own actions, provided everyone stalls long enough. Really I'd just have to let all anti-town players win and leave the game and town would auto win.

[hector13]

It’s time for another Good Idea, Bad Idea.

Good Idea:

town would auto win.

Bad Idea:

Really I'd just have to let all anti-town players win

[Maximum Spin]

Bad Idea:

Really I'd just have to let all anti-town players win

I think that meant "win by forced second-wincon implantation so they can't achieve anti-town wincons".

[hector13]

You may be aware of his second wincon nonsense, but anything that requires not-my-team to win before my-team is bad.

If anti-town factions win before Egan leaves, does that even mean he can leave? The game would be over.

[VermilionSkies]

hector - Egan still has the normal town wincon, alongside their secondary wincon.

[TricMagic]

As I said Egan, die again. Day 1 and Night 1 I can't target people or get buff. Day 2 I get hit with the inability to revive, so still can't get buff. How do I get gains if I can't live? You know what you hit me with. Hector hit me with infection, you hit me with your nonsense. The latter is on you.

[TricMagic]

From the description, ghosts don't leave until destroyed, so if anyone has something like that can we please remove these two from contention? Egan's not playing to town wincon, they're playing to second wincon. Hector just needs to get roleblocked if we have one.

[hector13]

hector - Egan still has the normal town wincon, alongside their secondary wincon.

He does, but if the second wincon requires anti-town to win, I’d rather not do it.

[hector13]

I say “he does”, he has a primary wincon aside from the secondary one.

[Egan_BW]

They