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[hector13]

So… that means Tric must have acted on you and/or CM? Can Tric confirm this?

Also, what you’re saying about the infection status appears to be a little different to what Tric said:

Hector, that doesn't actually help. I literally already told you. I can't target anyone without infecting them. Ghosts can't catch the infection. If I end up a ghost, no longer infected. I die at the end of the night. That's it.

He doesn’t mention that acting on him passes in the infection.

I’m not sure whether we should have Tric tell us again or if it’s worth CM telling us what infection does. Something doesn’t add up here.


As for me being dead… I thought I already mentioned that…?

[Imp]

So… that means Tric must have acted on you and/or CM? Can Tric confirm this?

Also, what you’re saying about the infection status appears to be a little different to what Tric said:

Hector, that doesn't actually help. I literally already told you. I can't target anyone without infecting them. Ghosts can't catch the infection. If I end up a ghost, no longer infected. I die at the end of the night. That's it.

He doesn’t mention that acting on him passes in the infection.

I’m not sure whether we should have Tric tell us again or if it’s worth CM telling us what infection does. Something doesn’t add up here.


As for me being dead… I thought I already mentioned that…?

How and why are you a ghost, Hector?

Yes, Tric's "that's it" is incorrect, if I have the same form of infection that he did.

I acted on Tric N1, so if Tric has this form of infection then that explains how I caught it - I could have been infected through someone's action or something too.  I have no clues that might have happened, unless there are indeed multiple forms of infection.

Anyone acting on me D2 or N2 who can become infected I would expect to catch the infection unless they can't (ghosts can't, it says).  Maybe someone else has some specific protection as well.  Otherwise, don't target me unless you are ready to become infected.

I am asking NQT to confirm that as a ghost I would lose the infection; the wording is imprecise and it's clear that ghosts can't gain an infection, but not expressly clear that becoming a ghost while infected removes the ... I presume it's a status from the ghost.

[TricMagic]

My version is if I target you. Crystal, what's yours say?

As for you not having my other ability, asking NQT about that right now.

[ToonyMan]

As for me being dead… I thought I already mentioned that…?

Please explain again.

@Imp:
Why did you target Tric when you knew he was infected? I don't understand why you would do this.

[Elephant Parade]

PFP

By the way, I got a tenth of a vote last night. That makes me relatively confident EJ isn't behind the ghosts or the plague, since it'd be weird for him to have two game-spanning gimmicks.

[Egan_BW]

PFP

By the way, I got a tenth of a vote last night. That makes me relatively confident EJ isn't behind the ghosts or the plague, since it'd be weird for him to have two game-spanning gimmicks.

Would it be weird? That's just having mass-effect and then two other spheres which are effect-able.

[Egan_BW]

I told you, I hope, in a way useful for you D1 to understand and hopefully not useful to others because I wasn't sure how towny a secret your abilities might be - that I had your class ability.

Imp, this chain of words is incomprehensible to me, trying to read this makes my brain give up, you've chained too many clauses together. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just saying ow my head.

[ToonyMan]

I believe that Crystal was infected by the mafia last night, while Imp's infection was self-inflicted by targeting Tric.


I'm going to copy the italics = ghost thing.

Likely Town
Tric - was infected N0 and died, was likely the first mafiakill victim (why Tric?)
Crystal - was infected N1, was likely the second mafiakill victim (why Crystal? the mafiakill choices are weird to me)
Egan - their second wincon stuff with Max and behavior I read as strongly town
Imp - got themselves infected, I read them as strongly town from behavior anyway

Probably Town
Vermilion - their body was taken, probably scum did it
Jim - I think they're town, there I said it

Unclear
Max - unsure, points out feelings towards Jack and Elephant, not sure of alignment
Jack - unsure, I'm lowering Jack for now
Elephant - unsure, I like Jim/Vermilion/Crystal more so it makes Elephant look worse to me

Suspicious
Hector - probably scum, I think they're being unhelpful to cause trouble, the fact they spent the effort to say "As for me being dead… I thought I already mentioned that…?" instead of just politely explaining is bad manners. Possibly mafia-ally, possibly the one causing the ghosts to help the mafia in the first place, since Hector started the game as a ghost themselves
FoU - probably scum, tunneling me for "bad reasoning/votes" and being overly-dramatic which is their scumtell

Fallacy Comparison:
CYOS1 (FoU is mafia with Web/Max)
FoU nags me for only providing minor details for my town reads and no reasoning for my scum picks. FoU votes me. Gets confrontational and heated with me. "I know Toony is going to give me hell for this, but I don't care, I've caught scum."

CYOS2 (unknown)
FoU votes me. FoU calls my votes shit and to explain my reasoning. Gets confrontational and theatrical. "I'm finally calm. Isn't this what you always wanted, Toony?"

[EuchreJack]

PFP

By the way, I got a tenth of a vote last night. That makes me relatively confident EJ isn't behind the ghosts or the plague, since it'd be weird for him to have two game-spanning gimmicks.

Thanks Elephant, I was waiting to see if you would mention that.

[Imp]

My version is if I target you. Crystal, what's yours say?

As for you not having my other ability, asking NQT about that right now.

The chat was clear to me.  The 'winner', which you forced me to be without discussion or planning, gets 1 qualifying ability of the loser as a 1-shot copy of that ability; it can be any that qualifies, on the path of the rules you forced us down.  I would say most usable abilities qualify with a few exceptions.

You yourself made mention of a 2/3 chance of getting something useful, right?

Imp's going to get a random non-auto from me cause I literally just conceded that game.

My night action can potentially infect the entire game. And my day action means whoever I target will pass it along tomorrow night. No thank you, would rather die than that. So I rolled the dice to give my ability to you. You've got a 2/3 chance of doing what I couldn't.

You now make it sound like you're confused or unsure, you also worded that as having 1 day and 1 night ability, but a 2/3 chance.

You're allowed to be confusing.  I don't even have to worry too much about if you're anti-town.

As for me being dead… I thought I already mentioned that…?

Please explain again.

@Imp:
Why did you target Tric when you knew he was infected? I don't understand why you would do this.

I didn't even consider about Tric being infected; I didn't catch any warning that targetting him would be dangerous.  I had another reason to target Tric, chances are I discuss that later.

Hector, yeah.  We've asked how you died more than once.  And why you're a ghost and what you know about it.  If you answered, I totally missed it, need quotes.

[hector13]

Quick post because busy and no battery I got killed N0 it’s not rocket scientist

[Egan_BW]

Oh tric, did you receive an auto ability? I've tried to give you something to help with being dead and all.

[TricMagic]

Imp, I have one question to ask. Are you feeling lucky? Shoots Imp.

not really but close enough.


Saved by the ninja. Die again Egan.

Was going to use my day power to see if I'd get anything out of the warehouse on resolution, but just for that no. I can't revive, so can't get buff. Thanks, I hate it.

[Imp]

Quick post because busy and no battery I got killed N0 it’s not rocket scientist

Sure, be busy and have no battery.

Later, we're clearly interested in what killed you.  Did you have a role that was going to die N0 as created or given to you?  Were you surprised to die?

He's possibly our patient zero.  He may even have a way to spread disease without being infected himself.  I don't like the evasiveness, but I can't benefit from voting him, if he's antitown he already counts as dead for my wincon.

Imp, I have one question to ask. Are you feeling lucky? Shoots Imp.

not really but close enough.


Saved by the ninja. Die again Egan.

Was going to use my day power to see if I'd get anything out of the warehouse on resolution, but just for that no. I can't revive, so can't get buff. Thanks, I hate it.

Tric.

Can you help me though?

And would it matter if I ghost?

I can maybe be a bit more useful N2 if helped in a useful way.  So if you choose to use a day ability you think would help what I hope is our shared wincon, on me or anyone.  I currently have no day abilities, but I get to do 'one last thing' tonight as a living, (I presume) and then whatever I can do as a ghost.  But I'm alive, so I can be buffed, I presume, even if I lose it later.  I have no idea if it helps, I only get to see a copy of your class ability.  It tells me of course a tiny bit about another ability you have, but I don't have that either, just class.

I really just want town to win.

I'm very neutral about my own alive status, it closes some doors for me to be dead and costs my wincon a vote.  I'm also kinda opposed to 'so, kill them all?  It's still a town win' because I'm underinformed if anyone could survive the kill method.  If anyone anti-town can, 'kill em all' is a fast way to ensure a town loss, so I'm really not tempted.

And I have no way to kill everyone.  Or to kill anyone, other than this infection that probably can kill anyone who isn't somehow immune; a baddie probably could be and even if not, if there's more than 1 baddie left infecting the baddie increases the ways they can kill in that last cycle; probably not ideal.

So I'm not too concerned about it.  From myself.

[Imp]

If this exists.

Anyone infected can have their life lengthened by somehow being empowered/cursed/affected/whammied/anything so that they do not experience the full duration of the night time period.

Time travel abilities, other time magic, whatever.  If it exists, it would allow an infected to live 'around' the night until they were present for the entire length of the night's period.

Being kicked out of the playing area, like commuted or something.

Infection spread is a real risk.  But if anyone could and chooses to send an infected out of play during any of the night or all of it, they don't die that night.

Per conversation with NQT.