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[Jim Groovester]

Let me review Verm's posts one last time. I'll either solidify my vote, or change it to ToonyMan.

Lame.

[Jim Groovester]

I should also not be lame and use my vote on a player that has a realistic chance of being lynched but I want somebody i.e. Max to make the EP case to me.

[VermilionSkies]

EP - Right now, I wouldn't like a lynch because I can't say for certain that I have any solid evidence. Hanging someone is rather permanent, and doing so based on nothing but my vibes of them seems like something that's prone to being a severe misplay.
As I mentioned before, you seem like town, but town that's currently working towards lynching me.
I can't say that lynching me would be correct, but there isn't much I can do to stop it currently.

[TricMagic]

No lynch is not a good option I feel. Mostly for me cause I'd rather be lynched in that case. Really hoping this page can help.

... I've honestly not got much clue on who to lynch. I think Imp's on point? At least nothing seems off to me about them by this point.

Ninja: Skies, the main issue is a lack of suspects. That's just how day 1 goes. But as is... VermilionSkies.

[FallacyofUrist]

Okay.

I find Verm's earlier reads a bit weird - that neutral read on Imp and highly town read on Toony, especially.

I'm not really sure if it's enough to justify an execution, however, when ToonyMan is on the table.

Yes, I'm aware I'm doing a Fallacy tunnel. This time, though, Toony did it first, so I'm allowed to vote for him!

Why me? Why Elephant Parade? Help me understand your reads.

I think both Imp and Tric are town, but not as confident about EP and CM, who are both voting Verm.

[ToonyMan]

My desire to vote Vermilion rises with Imp feeling very strongly that they're anti-town and Jim going "baaawww not my Vermilion baaawwwwwwwwwwww".

[Elephant Parade]

EP - Right now, I wouldn't like a lynch because I can't say for certain that I have any solid evidence. Hanging someone is rather permanent, and doing so based on nothing but my vibes of them seems like something that's prone to being a severe misplay.
As I mentioned before, you seem like town, but town that's currently working towards lynching me.
I can't say that lynching me would be correct, but there isn't much I can do to stop it currently.

I asked because (1) No Lynch is traditionally considered to be a rather bad outcome for town, given that it provides no information and creates a 'free' night phase for the Mafia to (presumably) kill in (2) in voting me you make it more likely that I, your townread, will be executed, as it is possible that additional people will vote for me. I guess that goes without saying but it felt weird to me that you didn't even acknowledge the possibility.

I'm also not into the fatalism here.

[Imp]

EP - Right now, I wouldn't like a lynch because I can't say for certain that I have any solid evidence. Hanging someone is rather permanent, and doing so based on nothing but my vibes of them seems like something that's prone to being a severe misplay.
As I mentioned before, you seem like town, but town that's currently working towards lynching me.
I can't say that lynching me would be correct, but there isn't much I can do to stop it currently.

Well, unless you're the reason there are ghosts, and you are staring at a role that tells you 'upon your death [whatever that means you die for real]'.  Any of us dying may end up as ghosts, are maybe likely to end up as ghosts.

So, unless you know differently, if you're elim then you're maybe more likely to be a ghost than be 'rather permanent'.

The mechanic may not exist in game, but we were told by the mod:

A ghost cannot be resurrected if their corpse is destroyed.

That gives me a heads up that res can be in play.  I don't claim one, and only the player who causes ghosts really knows what's going on there.

You seem pretty despondent.

Me, I dunno but I need anti-town dead, and ghost-dead is dead enough, and I don't know what happens when you die/who controls the ghosts having the ability to exist as ghosts, or other details about that side of things.  So I'm not too concerned, except about chasing my wincon.

[ToonyMan]

@Fallacy:
You remember your alignment the last time you spent the whole game tunneling me after I correctly read you as mafia, right? You're just proving my point further.

[FallacyofUrist]

ToonyMan explain your votes today to me.

If you actually have good reasoning, I'm willing to hear you out about Elephant.

Ninjas:

Toony, your votes are shit. I'm allowed to vote you for your votes being shit. Me voting someone who voted them first doesn't make me mafia.

I'm finally calm. Isn't this what you always wanted, Toony?

[ToonyMan]

Screw it, I want FoU and Vermilion blood. I would be dramatic and vote Vermilion here but I think they're at 5 votes so a 6th would be hammer.

[ToonyMan]

@Fallacy:
This is literally what you did as mafia in the Webadict/Max/FoU game, you were there! I would pull all the posts showing the near identical-ism, but there's not much day time left.

[Elephant Parade]

I think your hyperfocus on FallacyofUrist has been a bit much, particularly the Gambler's Fallacy part of this argument, but I can't disagree that they're suspicious. I have too many scumreads right now, though.

[FallacyofUrist]

@Fallacy:
This is literally what you did as mafia in the Webadict/Max/FoU game, you were there! I would pull all the posts showing the near identical-ism, but there's not much day time left.

Well do it Day 2, then. I'm looking forwards to it.

Did you seriously use that reasoning when you initially voted me, though?

[ToonyMan]

It's way too funny to pull Gambler's Fallacy on Fallacy when the facts line up!

Also Fallacy, eat Elephant poop. Consider this a vote for Vermilion though.