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Author Topic: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - GAME OVER - Mafia Team Murder Victory?  (Read 16396 times)

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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D1 - Pregaming the massacre
« Reply #180 on: December 02, 2024, 08:38:25 pm »

... I did not read that status entirely. Ghosts can't be infected. Jury's still out on if I'd carry the infection into death though.

The best move might be to just see which ghost is trustworthy, get lynched and hope to turn into a ghost, and then I can use my action normally. Assuming ghosts can't die of overwork anyway.

Ninja Imp. Again. As I did not target you, no infection occurred. NQT said they'd be going to bed, so any answers to my questions will have to wait for tomorrow.

Tric, seriously.

if the thing's a one-shot.  And you're not sure about using it on either existing ghost.  Maybe hold it.  maybe there's some other ghost soon you're confidently buffing.  Or if you think buffing the wrong ghost is bad or really bad.  Can wait for more/better ghosts in case they happen.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres - D1 - Pregaming the massacre
« Reply #181 on: December 02, 2024, 08:42:38 pm »

I don’t know how ghosts interact with the town wincon, though.


Hey, Hector.  Why are you dead, and why haven't you asked Tric anything you're unsure of about in terms of how being a ghost interfaces with the town wincon or whatever wincon you happen to have?
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« Reply #182 on: December 02, 2024, 08:52:45 pm »

... I did not read that status entirely. Ghosts can't be infected. Jury's still out on if I'd carry the infection into death though.

The best move might be to just see which ghost is trustworthy, get lynched and hope to turn into a ghost, and then I can use my action normally. Assuming ghosts can't die of overwork anyway.

Ninja Imp. Again. As I did not target you, no infection occurred. NQT said they'd be going to bed, so any answers to my questions will have to wait for tomorrow.
You should still have the sasuga channel access, only your version is one-shot. I'd be less miffed otherwise.
And no, can't target the dead, only the living.

Tric, seriously.

if the thing's a one-shot.  And you're not sure about using it on either existing ghost.  Maybe hold it.  maybe there's some other ghost soon you're confidently buffing.  Or if you think buffing the wrong ghost is bad or really bad.  Can wait for more/better ghosts in case they happen.
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« Reply #183 on: December 02, 2024, 09:11:55 pm »

As to the question of cards and my voting ability: They are not connected, as far as I can tell.  I assume the cards are related to someone else's role.
I seem to recall that either Hector or FallacyofUrist likes card games, so it's probably one of their roles.

@Hector & Fallacy: Do either of your roles have anything to do with cards?

Nope. As mentioned earlier, I started with a Card item, but my role isn't card-themed, nor is it card-game themed.

It doesn't look like the person responsible for the cards is going to claim, currently. Understandable. It's Day 1.

I would never say no to voting Fallacy day 1.

I know you think I'm always scum, and sometimes I am scum, but I'm not always scum. I'm just often scum.

I'm not going to look kindly upon you if you don't at least justify the vote, though.
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« Reply #184 on: December 02, 2024, 09:16:10 pm »

... I did not read that status entirely. Ghosts can't be infected. Jury's still out on if I'd carry the infection into death though.

The best move might be to just see which ghost is trustworthy, get lynched and hope to turn into a ghost, and then I can use my action normally. Assuming ghosts can't die of overwork anyway.

Ninja Imp. Again. As I did not target you, no infection occurred. NQT said they'd be going to bed, so any answers to my questions will have to wait for tomorrow.
You should still have the sasuga channel access, only your version is one-shot. I'd be less miffed otherwise.
And no, can't target the dead, only the living.


Tric, seriously.

if the thing's a one-shot.  And you're not sure about using it on either existing ghost.  Maybe hold it.  maybe there's some other ghost soon you're confidently buffing.  Or if you think buffing the wrong ghost is bad or really bad.  Can wait for more/better ghosts in case they happen.
You should still have the sasuga channel access, only your version is one-shot. I'd be less miffed otherwise.
And no, can't target the dead, only the living.

Late night confusion. Fal not much to say. Day 1 with mechanics to discuss, but one should also look at how people are choosing to argue things. Max isn't really trying at the moment. No jokes that indicate scummyness either, so you being able to trade random stuff where if the other side doesn't choose to trade anything is just odd. Cause that has a lot in common with the sasuga chat. What do you think of me closing it so quickly?
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« Reply #185 on: December 02, 2024, 10:17:09 pm »

We're possibly going to have to live without flips this game, or with fewer flips than usual, given ghosts being active and unflipped.

But ghosts count as dead in terms of dead anti-town.  That's probably important, hope most town don't get dead, and we won't know until it's too late, maybe, if they do.

I'm possibly going to have to play this awesome Spheres game more like it's a normal mafia game instead of as a super powered freakazoid who is coincidentally also playing to win a mafia game.  Or maybe someone changes me helpfully, should anyone can and choose, or maybe oops into doing so.  Buffing up, unsure that's the sorta change I need.

Reads:

Tricmagic:  Unsure.  This doesn't seem like the Trics I've played beside before.  However, I mostly like him, and I need anti-town dead.  Apparently he's gonna die soon, and I don't have to decide if I want to prevent that (I can't currently prevent it).  So I'm not going to worry about how pro- or anti- town Tric, Hector, or Egan is.  Currently I'm pretty sure I want Tric alive.  Even if he's anti-town, because he seems to be moving to die by preference and I don't think it's an elaborate ploy and I don't think he could be our last anti-town.  Also he's maybe a flavor of pro-town Tric I just never met before.  Seriously unsure.

Hector:  Cue horror music.

My alignment is town, so far as I’m aware.

Are you creepy because you're a Ghost?  I like your take on Tric's attitude about his D1 death interests.  I'm unsure why you seem unsure about your alignment at all.  In general your words feel well informed about ghosts.  A few specifics that are jolting, like the intersection of town wincon with your ghost status makes me wonder how aware of your town alignment you are.

Thing is, you put a lot of effort into scum hunting and deciding Tric's not a baddy.  looks pretty good scumhunting, and solid ideas.  Other than a bit of discussion about Slenderman for me (and if Slender's in this game, and affected by pages, Slenderman probably has issue with me more than the rest of you)

You play a bit of RVS, chatter and slightly interact with others.

But... really your focus seems to be infection, Tric, ghosts.  You even seem to scumhunt Tric and lean clear.  But not seeing that level of interest and work towards anyone else yet.

Uneasy about you, even 'haunted'.  But since you're already dead, and I'm not currently (maybe never) ghostbusting, evaluation stops there.  You're creepy, and that's probably okay; if not someone who handles ghosts evaluate and decide what to do (like you would anyway).

Egan:  Probably can win while dead, especially with that second wincon.  Second wincon maybe aligned with the SK-town-rocks fall concept.  Playing for amusement near as I can tell, likely joking/misleading a lot.  Not obviously townie, but definitely dead so not my focus.

Alright.  People I get to live with and could vote, reads in loose grouping:

Euchrejack - seems fine.  Weak-to-Moderate townlean, largely meta on that.  Nice to see you alive again, precious Pirate King.
Toonyman - Feels fine.  Weak to moderate townlean.

Maximum Spin - Fine for now, given he's Max.  I'll be very opinionated about him later, if it matters and I can.  Might be a few days, but I also am fine with this game's flavor of Max (again thanks Max for not going with an 'Imp'll hate this flavor for sure' style in yet another game :) )
Elephant Parade - Seems fine, involved.  Mostly null, weak townlean, low confidence.
FallacyofUrist - stronger, more confident play than usual, as either town or scum.  Going with 3P or town Fal here, extremely low confidence.  However, I want to heavily encourage Fal to explore this playstyle.  Umm, null weak pro-town lean.
Jim_Groovester - fine for now.  Feels... utterly non-abrasive in general, despite the few pokes taken at some.  Otherwise could be anything.  Null and fine with having more time.
CrystalizedMire - hard to read player with surprising range of skill.  For now, is fine.  Looking forward to seeing what this one does, could even be town.

VermilionSkies - Feels wrong x3.  This could be due to the travelling he's been doing???  This is not any Vermillion I have played with before, to my feel.  I think this may be anti-town, but I'm going purely on feel and reaction and the differences between my meta-connection-sense of Verm in other games, where from first-contact I read him likely town and he was.  Definitely willing to look longer/look more.  But this feels wrong, kinda bigtime.
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Re: NQT's Choose-Your-Own-Spheres 2 - D1 - Pregaming the massacre
« Reply #186 on: December 02, 2024, 11:01:53 pm »

Item claiming, because I just woke up.
I have a playing card and a Counter sphere item.

Imp, or anyone else who isn’t a sentient warehouse that would know, what are items doing in this setup?

What we know about items.

We can trade items during the day (but ghosts can't trade, as mod stated; I bet a special role or ability might allow if existed).

We can give items.

Some items are consumable, 'fruit' items normally always are.

Some items are wearable, hat items normally always are (and usually only 1 wearable item can be worn).

Some abilities may be 'paid'.  If so an item can be destroyed to give one free use of that paid ability.

It's likely 1+ people have 1+ ways to take items out of play.

It's likely 1+ people have 1+ ways to steal items or otherwise move items around in ways not publicly known.

It's likely that 1+ people have 1+ ways to create items, either in their own inventory or in other people's inventories.

It's likely that some abilities exist that can use items in ways that couldn't be done without that ability.

Items can have other tags and spheres, and can be exceedingly complex and involved, or can be basic and straightforward.

An item that states it has no use may have extreme empowerment for someone with the right ability; items that have uses might likewise empower a player with the right ability.
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« Reply #187 on: December 02, 2024, 11:50:52 pm »

yeah so I'm kinda going through something personal right now
like literally RIGHT NOW
I'll try to participate
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« Reply #188 on: December 03, 2024, 12:41:59 am »

yeah so I'm kinda going through something personal right now
like literally RIGHT NOW
I'll try to participate
Good luck.  I hope it ends up secure and okay.
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« Reply #189 on: December 03, 2024, 01:43:51 am »



You forgot to mention that I got Jim to fall for an excellent Deez Nuts joke.

*sighs*

TL;DR all the information I have (“so far as I’m aware”) indicates I am town, there is nothing to misinterpret there; ghosts and infections are more interesting than RVS; I found Tric’s reaction to being infected suspicious so pressed him; it’s not my fault he doesn’t read his PMs or enlightens us particularly well about claims he makes.

I am one of 12 players in the game, why am I apparently expected to do all the work, especially when I can’t vote; why does that always seem to keep coming up; I have other things to do, even when I was posting earlier; I don’t have infinite time else I wouldn’t be wasting it here, etc.

It’s cool you say you’re not going to worry about me and I warrant the largest section of your reads list.

@Max, remember you are more important than the game.



I’m going to play video games until the end of the day.
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« Reply #190 on: December 03, 2024, 02:12:55 am »

I'm caught up to the thread but I haven't really spent too much time assembling my thoughts from what I read (because I'm doing other stuff like cleaning my house).

It's OMGUSsy but I don't like Elephant Parade's suspicion towards me. Not impressed with the justification that my posts are large but contentless; it strikes me as a low effort justification to suspect somebody. He also did this after buttering me up about being mason buddies; I feel betrayed :(

I like hector13's back and forth with TricMagic. I read that positively.

I am 100% copying ToonyMan's homework and I make no apology doing this.

I remember thinking that despite VermilionSkies' relatively low post count I feel there is earnestness there.

Not a fan of FoU mentioning having a suspicious role several times without elaborating why. Would prefer it not brought up at all if FoU is just going to be a fucking tease about it.

Crystalizedmire has a weak Day 1 as several have noted but my impression is that Crystalizedmire has a weaker presence in general and it's not immediately damning.

Max's interactions with Egan_BW I think make both of them look okay.

I'm amused that Egan_BW probably submitted 'the role that dies on N0' but was thwarted from exiting the game with zero meaningful participation by another player.

Also not impressed by EuchreJack during D1 so far. Not a lot of substantive interactions or a substantive display of his opinions about the state of the game. Claims being sick and working so some of this is understandable.

I think I shoot somewhere within EP, CM, or EJ for D1.

I’m going to play video games until the end of the day.

Speaking of, how far away is the end of the day?

yeah so I'm kinda going through something personal right now
like literally RIGHT NOW
I'll try to participate

Max, I wish you the strength to overcome, and failing that, the strength to endure.
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« Reply #191 on: December 03, 2024, 02:17:19 am »

Ghosts cannot vote or be voted. They can use abilities and be targeted by abilities. Hammer at 6 votes. Day ends Wednesday 12AM GMT, in about 38 hours time.

About 16.5 hours from my post now, looks like.
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« Reply #192 on: December 03, 2024, 02:32:56 am »

My workplace blocks this website so it's difficult for me to pay attention to the thread while I am working.

I probably don't make much of an appearance at the end of the day if it's 16ish hours from now.
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« Reply #193 on: December 03, 2024, 02:53:55 am »

Further considerations, while I'm not yet asleep.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tric claims to be infected and soon to die, and rather displeased by this.

Imp is Warehouse 13 again (again), was in a chat with Tric that got broken because Tric didn't abide by the rules of the chat, and is a bottomless source of artifacts and Pages.

hector13 and Egan_BW are ghosts. Egan implies that becoming a ghost wasn't the only possible outcome of Night 0.

ToonyMan and Jim Groovester are the scumteam are both weirdly chill. Probably not actually the scumteam, but I reserve the right to investigate this pairing.

Maximum Spin is dealing with IRL stuff - best of luck. I hope it all goes well, and don't feel obligated to participate here while other stuff should take priority - in the end this is a game.

CrystalizedMire, Elephant Parade, and VermillionSkies are caught in the middle and haven't highly distinguished themselves.

If I had to bet, I'd imagine one of those three is responsible for the cards.

EuchreJack is somehow even less distinctive, so much so that I forgot about him when I was putting CM, EP, and VS in the middle.
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« Reply #194 on: December 03, 2024, 03:45:34 am »

Maximum Spin is hiding in the shadows.
That's an interesting thing to call sleeping.
This covers me as well.  Going back to work with a cold sucks.

Reads List
TricMagic is gonna die end of Day 1.  So Town unless still alive Day 2. Sorry Tric.
Ghosts

Egan_BW is dead and thus not worth analyzing.  Apparently killed themselves before the game began.
Hector13 is dead and thus not worth analyzing. Hector's death is still unexplained. Despite the fact that I don't want to waste brain power on ghosts, Hector13 has actually made some good points in Day 1, which he absolutely doesn't have to be doing.

Toonyman is town. Toonymosis.

Imp is town. Playing the game, probably looking to give out gifts during the Night, like Santa Claus. And Santa Claus is Town, obviously.

Jim_Groovester is Slightly Town, and his posts are like the best of Christmas Presents.

Elephant Parade is very slightly town, seems to be trying to figure things out.

VermilionSkies exists.

Crystalizedmire exists. I know from experience that I mostly can't read Crystalizedmire.

FallacyofUrist needs to play better, and looks scummy for not playing better.

Maximum Spin has largely posted things I imagine he wrote before the game started. There was a bit of panic over someone touching his stuff, but I don't see how that points to him being town. But now going through stuff. Maybe should ask for a replacement? Eh, unvote
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