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[Maximum Spin]

Maximum Spin is hiding in the shadows.

That's an interesting thing to call sleeping.

[Egan_BW]

@Jim: Nope, my role kills me and does not ghost me. Ghosts are the product of someone else's role, not mine.

[Crystalizedmire]

Someone get Tric a page, please, sometime, somehow, particularly if he becomes a ghost (and even if he doesn't).  I'll work towards that happening (what, you think I want the darn things?  Sure, but they have better uses and timing) if nobody else gets him a page, no idea if they have better uses.  They easily could.

I have a page and I'm willing to give it to him, but why would it help?

I actually had a passive to be able to act on night 0, and it was explicitly to give me more time to do things before being dead. Since as a ghost I am able to act, it implies that dead players being ghosts wasn't the only possible outcome of night 0, otherwise NQT would not have needed to give me that extra action.

Just to confirm, you ghostifying was something you knew was going to happen, correct?

I can't really read that conclusion based on what Egan said, especially the "it implies that dead players being ghosts wasn't the only possible outcome of night 0" part.

Egan being able to act N0 was because Egan was going to die by start of D1. However, ghosts can act implying that Egan wasn't going to turn into a ghost.

[EuchreJack]

Someone get Tric a page, please, sometime, somehow, particularly if he becomes a ghost (and even if he doesn't).  I'll work towards that happening (what, you think I want the darn things?  Sure, but they have better uses and timing) if nobody else gets him a page, no idea if they have better uses.  They easily could.

@Imp & Tric: I have a page

No clue what a page would do. Have confirmed trading does not spread the infection. Also I wouldn't be infected anymore if I turn into a ghost.

@Tric: I will trade you a blank page, but you either need to tell me what your item is, or make the initial offer yourself.

FYI, I am at work with a cold. My ability to respond will be limited.

[Egan_BW]

I got a new ability N0 and I'm going to do something really unpleasant to it if I don't hear who put it there and why.

Aren't you ungrateful? I guess MS doesn't have a second wincon or else he wouldn't be complaining about this. Additionally, either town trying to investigate or my Counter, who would probably be scum since I'm town.

Why are you even asking why I put it there? It should be obvious from the text. As for why you, I figured you might appreciate it, but clearly not!

[Maximum Spin]

Aren't you ungrateful? I guess MS doesn't have a second wincon or else he wouldn't be complaining about this. Additionally, either town trying to investigate or my Counter, who would probably be scum since I'm town.

Why are you even asking why I put it there? It should be obvious from the text. As for why you, I figured you might appreciate it, but clearly not!

Thanks for explaining. You may as well know you've chosen well - your secondary wincons are pretty much guaranteed to be winnable forever now.

Of course I'm suspicious of anything showing up in my hands unclaimed.

[Elephant Parade]

To whom it may concern, I was going to discuss a bit with you here.  Seems unneeded now.  Maybe give a bit more time unless you're sure you know what you're doing and what I am doing, and what I can do.

Or not.

What were you going to discuss about?

Crystalizedmire: When you asked this question, did you expect it to be answered?

[Elephant Parade]

Egan_BW: If you don't mind my asking, are you the source of the plague?

[Egan_BW]

What connection do you see there?

[Elephant Parade]

What connection do you see there?

Unless Tric is lying someone had to pass it on, and unless the origin is themselves immune (which feels off to me for various reasons -- consider how explosively it would multiply) they'd have to die themselves after. You knew you were going to die N0 and yet had special permission to act anyway. Dying N0 feels like an Oops! All Red Spheres thing and I could see you submitting that kind of path.

[TricMagic]

What connection do you see there?

Unless Tric is lying someone had to pass it on, and unless the origin is themselves immune (which feels off to me for various reasons -- consider how explosively it would multiply) they'd have to die themselves after. You knew you were going to die N0 and yet had special permission to act anyway. Dying N0 feels like an Oops! All Red Spheres thing and I could see you submitting that kind of path.

... Sigh. Yeah, from what the status reads that's probably true. So they died of the infection Night 0, meaning a role that doesn't have to play the game to win. From that... NQT, do dead ghosts count for Town's win condition?


On another note, I'd ask Jack to reveal the name of the item for Imp to doublecheck before we trade. The cards don't seem to do anything, but the poker aesthetic suggests there is something up with them.

[Egan_BW]

What connection do you see there?

Unless Tric is lying someone had to pass it on, and unless the origin is themselves immune (which feels off to me for various reasons -- consider how explosively it would multiply) they'd have to die themselves after. You knew you were going to die N0 and yet had special permission to act anyway. Dying N0 feels like an Oops! All Red Spheres thing and I could see you submitting that kind of path.

My action was to target Maximum Spin, not tric. I'm dead because I have an auto which kills me at the start of day 1, that's all it does.

[Elephant Parade]

What connection do you see there?

Unless Tric is lying someone had to pass it on, and unless the origin is themselves immune (which feels off to me for various reasons -- consider how explosively it would multiply) they'd have to die themselves after. You knew you were going to die N0 and yet had special permission to act anyway. Dying N0 feels like an Oops! All Red Spheres thing and I could see you submitting that kind of path.

My action was to target Maximum Spin, not tric. I'm dead because I have an auto which kills me at the start of day 1, that's all it does.

Yeah, I'd forgotten about that. That's a pretty big hole in my theory.

[TricMagic]

Suppose MS target is confirmed then? Which leaves Hector as the culprit here. Could you remind me of what that action was? Can check later but about to eat lunch.

[Crystalizedmire]

To whom it may concern, I was going to discuss a bit with you here.  Seems unneeded now.  Maybe give a bit more time unless you're sure you know what you're doing and what I am doing, and what I can do.

Or not.

What were you going to discuss about?

Crystalizedmire: When you asked this question, did you expect it to be answered?

I expected a partial answer, yes.