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[Elephant Parade]

Toony:

Jack - voting and getting shit done

I don't quite get it. All EJ has done is claim items, ask a mod question, and vote a player who hadn't posted yet to demonstrate his 1.5-vote, right?

[Imp]

Toony:

Jack - voting and getting shit done

I don't quite get it. All EJ has done is claim items, ask a mod question, and vote a player who hadn't posted yet to demonstrate his 1.5-vote, right?

I lean towny response on EJ.

See, I dunno if you have a page.

But EJ's probably staring at one.  Saw me request someone get a page to Tric, saw what Tric had said in thread, and started to get on board with seeing about making that request possibly happen without EJ taking harm from it (mod question).

I presume because with the information EJ has, he thought that was likely a town-positive thing to do.

I don't know anything about his vote stuff.  But giving info is commonly recognized as towny, and I sure don't see it as anti-town.  (he could be role Death-Killer of Whole Towns and alignment mafia, but the actions look reasonably towny from my perspective).

[Imp]

I have reason to believe that ghosts can be specifically interacted with over non-ghosts, it's not related to Ghostbusters though.

Makes sense!

Likely Town

whines Buuuuut Toony.  You're still, like, one of my favorite people to play in the same mafia game with!

And that chat.  Man.  It was more mech than chat.  It looked at a glance to be useless to chat in.  Tric appeared to think get game out of the way, and can actually talk there.  Me, I had already asked mod, get game out of the way and close chat.  I was exploring how to play with control... no matter.

Tooooooony.

I didn't make that chat.

I 96% think Tric didn't make that chat.

Who the heck makes a chat and puts Tric and Imp in it?  And a chat that's complex and designed to... well.  It's a trap.  It's a trap-chat and... I wanna know who made it.  It could be friendly.  I sure could have used it with skill.  But that's a very... interesting chat.

I wonder if there's another one tomorrow, and who is in it.

In case yes, folks in it - can talk here before you say anything in that chat.  And maybe you want to, and listen and decide stuff before you say your first word in it.

But who made the weirdchat?  That was the weirdest chat ever....

[hector13]

I mean, if we’re throwing out accusations willy-nilly to get out of RVS, the Tric/Imp thing is weird, mostly because I have never seen Tric get morose over things like being infected and how that interacts with his actions/other players.

Like, I remember Tric voting Jim at one point knowing Jim had a daykill that he could use on someone voting him, daring him to shoot him, which resulted in Jim shooting Tric.

I also recall Tric basically throwing the game as Town in order to gain hats.

[hector13]

I concur re: hector13 being the scummier of the two ghosts. I don't like how he didn't reply to my contrary response here, though he might just not have had anything to say.

*pointedly ignores*

It’s a matter of opinion. I gave mine, you and Toony offered yours. I don’t think it's worth exploring beyond raising things folk may not have considered  - I never thought much beyond my initial gut reaction to it - because it’s pretty NAI, and all I really wanted was for people to think how it might affect the mechanics.

[Imp]

I mean, if we’re throwing out accusations willy-nilly to get out of RVS, the Tric/Imp thing is weird, mostly because I have never seen Tric get morose over things like being infected and how that interacts with his actions/other players.

Like, I remember Tric voting Jim at one point knowing Jim had a daykill that he could use on someone voting him, daring him to shoot him, which resulted in Jim shooting Tric.

I also recall Tric basically throwing the game as Town in order to gain hats.

Tric is sideways from how I am used to seeing Tric, yes.  What this means... still observing.

[EuchreJack]

Toony:

Jack - voting and getting shit done

I don't quite get it. All EJ has done is claim items, ask a mod question, and vote a player who hadn't posted yet to demonstrate his 1.5-vote, right?

@ElephantParade: Not to interrupt, but I think it's more that Toony would like more players to "claim items, ask a mod a question, and vote a player"

[Jim Groovester]

If you have a way to grant me items it would be really handy if you could give them to me.

My role is not traditionally powerful but if my analysis about it is correct it's pretty damn good. Having items to burn should help me get my game going.

Ghosts can use and be targeted by actions though, essentially taking away the power of the mafia to eliminate players with a kill.

Thinking about it more giving up a vote to not get lynched is a fantastic trade. It's great for a town player but a fucking killer deal for scum.

I hope neither of our ghost friends are mafia because that would be very rude.

So, who wants to get buff? Side effects unknown, 1 shot only since it's from the game.

Can you elaborate on what getting buff does for a player and why I might want it?

I'm not. I'm town. You should trust me on this, no matter how suspicious my role looks.

*siiiiiiiiiiiigh*

What's suspicious about your role?

I actually had a passive to be able to act on night 0, and it was explicitly to give me more time to do things before being dead. Since as a ghost I am able to act, it implies that dead players being ghosts wasn't the only possible outcome of night 0, otherwise NQT would not have needed to give me that extra action.

Just to confirm, you ghostifying was something you knew was going to happen, correct?

Also, I have 1.5 votes, FYI.

Proof: Vote Maximum Spin

I can understand claiming this if there was no way to conceal it.

But if there was a way to conceal this you should not have claimed.



TricMagic is probably town. Imp is also probably town. Lean town on ToonyMan because effort. Slight town on Elephant Parade because of his comment about wanting to be in a private chat.

Not feeling strongly about any of the other players so far nor am I super impressed with what the remaining players have done after the first part of Day 1. If I have a gun to my head and have to vote somebody it probably lands somewhere within FoU, Maximum Spin, Crystalizedmire, and VermilionSkies, although I don't currently want to lynch any of these players particularly strongly. If our friendly ghosts were voteable they would be in that list too.

[Jim Groovester]

TricMagic is probably town. Imp is also probably town. Lean town on ToonyMan because effort. Slight town on Elephant Parade because of his comment about wanting to be in a private chat.

Not feeling strongly about any of the other players so far nor am I super impressed with what the remaining players have done after the first part of Day 1. If I have a gun to my head and have to vote somebody it probably lands somewhere within FoU, Maximum Spin, Crystalizedmire, and VermilionSkies, although I don't currently want to lynch any of these players particularly strongly. If our friendly ghosts were voteable they would be in that list too.

To further elaborate, 4 + 2 is probably between three and four more the number of scum there are, and I don't have any indication that any of these players are teamed with each other.

[EuchreJack]

Also, I have 1.5 votes, FYI.

Proof: Vote Maximum Spin

I can understand claiming this if there was no way to conceal it.

But if there was a way to conceal this you should not have claimed.

The only way to avoid claiming was to not vote.

[notquitethere]

NQT, are ghosts considered dead for the purpose of Town wincon?  We get all anti-town ghosted and we're good, or heck no, banish them nuisances?

Ghosts are dead players and count as such for any wincon.

@NQT: Will a player get infected if they receive a trade item from a player who is infected?

If a player has a condition or can inflict a condition, they will know about the limits of that condition or can PM me.


Vote Count
- TricMagic
- Maximum Spin - Euchrejack (1.5) = [1.5]
- Elephant Parade
- Imp
- VermilionSkies
- Crystalizedmire
- Toonyman
- Euchrejack
- FallacyofUrist - Toonyman (1), TricMagic (1) = [2]
- Jim_Groovester
- No Elimination

Ghosts
- Hector13
- Egan_BW

Ghosts cannot vote or be voted. They can use abilities and be targeted by abilities. Hammer at 6 votes. Day ends Wednesday 12AM GMT, in about 38 hours time.


Trades

Trade Six of Hearts to Imp in exchange for a random item.

[VermilionSkies]

Item claiming, because I just woke up.
I have a playing card and a Counter sphere item.

Imp, or anyone else who isn’t a sentient warehouse that would know, what are items doing in this setup?

[FallacyofUrist]

*siiiiiiiiiiiigh*

What's suspicious about your role?

Nyaaaaaaan~

Also, if someone else will claim possessing any items, I'll claim information about someone else's role theme.

@Fallacy - I got: A Page and A Playing Card.

Seems like a bunch of us received playing cards at the start of the game. (That's the 'someone else's role theme' info I was going to claim.)

But Tric beat me to it.

The Pages thing, I didn't know about, but that looks like some weird historical-gimmick Imp caused. Especially since she claimed it.

I actually had a passive to be able to act on night 0, and it was explicitly to give me more time to do things before being dead. Since as a ghost I am able to act, it implies that dead players being ghosts wasn't the only possible outcome of night 0, otherwise NQT would not have needed to give me that extra action.

Just to confirm, you ghostifying was something you knew was going to happen, correct?

I can't really read that conclusion based on what Egan said, especially the "it implies that dead players being ghosts wasn't the only possible outcome of night 0" part.


I don't mind that ToonyMan scum reads me. I am very, very easy to scum read, and my role is sussy. Contrary to popular belief, I am not always scum, though.

I do mind that ToonyMan is posting full read reasoning for Tric and Imp (reads I agree with, honestly), but not for Jack and Jim.

I feel like if you're saying someone is probably town you need more than just vibes.


Maximum Spin is hiding in the shadows.

[TricMagic]

Someone get Tric a page, please, sometime, somehow, particularly if he becomes a ghost (and even if he doesn't).  I'll work towards that happening (what, you think I want the darn things?  Sure, but they have better uses and timing) if nobody else gets him a page, no idea if they have better uses.  They easily could.

@Imp & Tric: I have a page

No clue what a page would do. Have confirmed trading does not spread the infection. Also I wouldn't be infected anymore if I turn into a ghost.

[TricMagic]

Thinking on it Jack's votes might be related to cards. But there isn't much difference between 1.5 votes and 2 votes.

... An extra vote isn't a huge issue to deal with, so long as we catch mafia before it becomes a problem. Assuming Jack isn't mafia but they didn't have...

Moving on, I think Fal might have been the one to put us in the sasuga chat. A random ability and item betting, playing cards abound, and now trading for a random item? Sounds like gacha mechanics. No one else has claimed to at this point, and it feels the most right.

Actions I can do right now are buff up a ghost, with full understanding that I can't tell if they're mafia. Die to lynch or at end of night. Or take a gamble on a page. Not mutually exclusive, so.. Egan, Hector. Put forth your arguments on what I should do. Preferably in the next 12 hours.