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[Imp]

Hi y'all.

I note NQT told us no N0 actions unless we're told otherwise.

So far as I'm concerned someone could have been allowed to act N0, but I didn't get offered any actions then.

In addition, the fact that ghost players can just "ignore the thread and not post if they want to" with the mod's permission implies to me that they are low impact. Most likely here to be a nuisance and confuse.

Maybe for other players to use in some way.  They might be vital for their team, and if anyone needs them out of play for any reason, that might be a 'fun' challenge to find a way.  For anyone who doesn't already have one.  I didn't cause ghosts to happen that I was informed of.

Somebody tell me if I missed any cool games since the last time I played in

January apparently.

Yes

Imp, do you have a team-chat again this game?

stressful ahhing

So, I don't have a team-chat.  I was in a private chat, with Tric.  It had complex rules and I don't know who created it.  I was shocked to learn about it and it needed a LOT of questions asked because we could have gamed that system pretty darn sweetly, to my eyes, if either of us had wanted or even needed to.  It was designed to be puzzled out and understood how it could be used, and I was deep in questions with the mod and making plans when... well.  I was Tric'd.  Hopefully nicely.  Tric, hope we can save you, sound like you need saving.

Hope you helped me. I need help?

I haven't spent much time with everyone else, but to anyone interested: Are you happy with the spheres you selected?

Yes but stressful ahhing I need help and I don't even know what would help me.  I also know stuff that would.  That's actually not the help I want or need.  I am, like, hoisted by my own petard.  20/10 would do it again.  Happy spheres indeed, but... well.  Help?  Anyone?  Like, change me?

So I've ended up infected before the game even started. I was going to ask the next poster if they wanted to get buff, but I can't act on anyone without also infecting them. And will end up dying at the end of the night. The hell?

Discuss, maybe?  How to help you?  Maybe something can be done.  The end of the night is very far away and some have maybe day powers and some night and some can do whatever they do.  So, inform as suits you maybe if you haven't yet.

Sheesh, you almost remind me of how Toony started the first CYOS game, sure he was doomed.  He had a key to winning the game for town, maybe, if handled and bluffed right.

No idea about here.  I'm kinda borked myself.

To whom it may concern, I was going to discuss a bit with you here.  Seems unneeded now.  Maybe give a bit more time unless you're sure you know what you're doing and what I am doing, and what I can do.

Or not.

What were you going to discuss about?

Would whoever created that chat and put me/Tric in it speak up and discuss that, so I can decide if and how to answer this question of Egan's?

I have, like.  I guess questions to ask.  But my style's like to watch and figure out.  Also I got so much to figure out.  My RVS or later questions come later.

[hector13]

I don't care about the ghosts, they can't vote/be voted and they can't mafiakill according to the condition.

In addition, the fact that ghost players can just "ignore the thread and not post if they want to" with the mod's permission implies to me that they are low impact. Most likely here to be a nuisance and confuse.

I think that may be a consequence if my reticence to play in the first place.

Ghosts can use and be targeted by actions though, essentially taking away the power of the mafia to eliminate players with a kill.

Seems to be awfully town-sided, no?

Do you like parodies?

If they're funny.

How’d you like a PAIR OF DEEZ NUTS. /hector wins

You're just jealous because you submitted a role where you have to play the game.

QFT.

PPE: folk dying doesn’t seem to be that much of an issue at this point, Tric.

Obviously we don’t know the reason why folk are hanging around after death, nor if that will last the entire game or what, but buffing someone probably lasts beyond death (though you may wish to confirm that with NQT, if possible) and you’ll still be able to act post-death, assuming you come back as a ghost, so… up to you, but I personally wouldn’t hold back.

PPE 2: haven’t read the last 4 or so posts.

[ToonyMan]

Night zero was probably actionless, but that isn't a guarantee. From the night zero post:

N0 will last as long as I need to send out the PMs, answer role questions etc. Probably ~24 hours. Unless I tell you otherwise, this is an actionless phase.

You're right, I missed that.

So, I don't have a team-chat.  I was in a private chat, with Tric.  It had complex rules and I don't know who created it.  I was shocked to learn about it and it needed a LOT of questions asked because we could have gamed that system pretty darn sweetly, to my eyes, if either of us had wanted or even needed to.  It was designed to be puzzled out and understood how it could be used, and I was deep in questions with the mod and making plans when... well.  I was Tric'd.  Hopefully nicely.  Tric, hope we can save you, sound like you need saving.

I would have probably nope'd out of a private Imp chat too.

I'm pretty sure Tric is town here.

[Imp]

Tric.

Think carefully.

Who trains?

Consider.

I need a leader to follow.

You can ignore me, I'll figure it out.  Yes I'm trying to be abstruse, but, like.  Huh?

[TricMagic]

Trains Train. Bit early for that in that it's night for me right now. We need more information.

There is a reason I was just going to fire it at the first person who wanted it. Mostly cause I could then kill them if they signaled the wrong thing. Not like that would work out well with the ghosts potentially in play. Rather than pick a leader, decide on who's town.

So, who wants to get buff? Side effects unknown, 1 shot only since it's from the game.

[Egan_BW]

Neat. Sup, Hector?

Well… what happened to you?

Do you like horror?

Nothing happened, I've always been like this.

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[hector13]

Can ghosts get infected? Because you can target ghosts. Or at least the game start post says you can, I don’t know the specifics of your buff, so you can do that if you’re worried about infecting the living.

PPE: are you responsible for the ghosts, Egan? If so, can you tell us if they ca get infected?

[Imp]

Trains Train. Bit early for that in that it's night for me right now. We need more information.

There is a reason I was just going to fire it at the first person who wanted it. Mostly cause I could then kill them if they signaled the wrong thing. Not like that would work out well with the ghosts potentially in play. Rather than pick a leader, decide on who's town.

So, who wants to get buff? Side effects unknown, 1 shot only since it's from the game.

Well, decent chance that you're town.  Or a unusually sideways SK, as always.  But sideways for you.

I can be targeted for getting buff, if I choose to participate, and if anyone were doing their part.

It has other ways to be used, probably.

Someone get Tric a page, please, sometime, somehow, particularly if he becomes a ghost (and even if he doesn't).  I'll work towards that happening (what, you think I want the darn things?  Sure, but they have better uses and timing) if nobody else gets him a page, no idea if they have better uses.  They easily could.

Note, I don't know who has pages.  And I know that any alignment could have them.

[Imp]

As I understand right now, this could be bad and worse than bad, all Tric's fears, like, if I used it tonight and everyone else did what they 'should' to use it.

So I don't think I do.

but maybe later there's better options and timing, if there is later.  And a lot of things can potentially be fixed in a lot of different ways, especially, well.  Since there's ghosts.

There don't have to be ghosts.  Nobody told me it was better to be Ghostbusters this game.  But since there apparently are ghosts, and if Tric goes ghost, is good, and we want good stuff and there's time.

Maybe I don't even have to be scared of dying?  I wouldn't mind being a ghost, but that was so not the way to be changed I think I need but I dunno anything really.  I have the most confusing role I have ever seen and it's like game wide and I can't see most of it, yay.

[Crystalizedmire]

Imp, do you have a team-chat again this game?

stressful ahhing

So, I don't have a team-chat.  I was in a private chat, with Tric.  It had complex rules and I don't know who created it.  I was shocked to learn about it and it needed a LOT of questions asked because we could have gamed that system pretty darn sweetly, to my eyes, if either of us had wanted or even needed to.  It was designed to be puzzled out and understood how it could be used, and I was deep in questions with the mod and making plans when... well.  I was Tric'd.  Hopefully nicely.  Tric, hope we can save you, sound like you need saving.

What do you mean by "designed to be puzzled out"? There's no harm in telling us besides wasting some amount of time.

To whom it may concern, I was going to discuss a bit with you here.  Seems unneeded now.  Maybe give a bit more time unless you're sure you know what you're doing and what I am doing, and what I can do.

Or not.

What were you going to discuss about?

Would whoever created that chat and put me/Tric in it speak up and discuss that, so I can decide if and how to answer this question of Egan's?

I'm Egan?

I don't care about the ghosts, they can't vote/be voted and they can't mafiakill according to the condition.

In addition, the fact that ghost players can just "ignore the thread and not post if they want to" with the mod's permission implies to me that they are low impact. Most likely here to be a nuisance and confuse.

I think that may be a consequence if my reticence to play in the first place.

Ghosts can use and be targeted by actions though, essentially taking away the power of the mafia to eliminate players with a kill.

Seems to be awfully town-sided, no?

The fact that ghosts have to be killed properly to alignment flip implies that not all ghosts are aligned with town

[FallacyofUrist]

Also I bet FoU is mafia again.

I'm not. I'm town. You should trust me on this, no matter how suspicious my role looks.

[Imp]

Imp, do you have a team-chat again this game?

stressful ahhing

So, I don't have a team-chat.  I was in a private chat, with Tric.  It had complex rules and I don't know who created it.  I was shocked to learn about it and it needed a LOT of questions asked because we could have gamed that system pretty darn sweetly, to my eyes, if either of us had wanted or even needed to.  It was designed to be puzzled out and understood how it could be used, and I was deep in questions with the mod and making plans when... well.  I was Tric'd.  Hopefully nicely.  Tric, hope we can save you, sound like you need saving.

What do you mean by "designed to be puzzled out"? There's no harm in telling us besides wasting some amount of time.

To whom it may concern, I was going to discuss a bit with you here.  Seems unneeded now.  Maybe give a bit more time unless you're sure you know what you're doing and what I am doing, and what I can do.

Or not.

What were you going to discuss about?

Would whoever created that chat and put me/Tric in it speak up and discuss that, so I can decide if and how to answer this question of Egan's?

I'm Egan?

I don't care about the ghosts, they can't vote/be voted and they can't mafiakill according to the condition.

In addition, the fact that ghost players can just "ignore the thread and not post if they want to" with the mod's permission implies to me that they are low impact. Most likely here to be a nuisance and confuse.

I think that may be a consequence if my reticence to play in the first place.

Ghosts can use and be targeted by actions though, essentially taking away the power of the mafia to eliminate players with a kill.

Seems to be awfully town-sided, no?

The fact that ghosts have to be killed properly to alignment flip implies that not all ghosts are aligned with town

Whoops, sorry CrystalizedMire!

All of my questions to the mod had not yet been answered by the time the chat closed.  So I don't fully understand the chat.

The chat was incredibly complex and included a 'game' and multilayered rules and possibly was put on Tric and myself by some third party.

I don't know who, or why me and Tric.

So I don't have much more to say until I think I understand more about that, but it was literally designed to be puzzled out, as in our precious moderator designed it so that it could be useful, if someone tried to use it, in non-obvious ways, not all of which I finished understanding from outside it.

[Egan_BW]

Can ghosts get infected? Because you can target ghosts. Or at least the game start post says you can, I don’t know the specifics of your buff, so you can do that if you’re worried about infecting the living.

PPE: are you responsible for the ghosts, Egan? If so, can you tell us if they ca get infected?

Nope.

[FallacyofUrist]

The real question is, whether the ghosts can properly win, and if so, how will they be working towards their win conditions? Will they just be running interference for their particular team? If, say, Egan is a mafghost, how can we prevent them from interfering with our investigations?

Exactly how relevant are they?

[Crystalizedmire]

Can ghosts get infected? Because you can target ghosts. Or at least the game start post says you can, I don’t know the specifics of your buff, so you can do that if you’re worried about infecting the living.

PPE: are you responsible for the ghosts, Egan? If so, can you tell us if they ca get infected?

Nope.

Which question were you answering?